Looking for staff clarification on rules about camping

[Grail3r]

Look on the bright side. If you don't like it there is always the next TLP servers coming out next month and they don't have "play nice" rules to worry about .

[Grail3r]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lists and hand offs can go on forever.

Just get your name put on the list . Simple really. The list might be long but there is an end to the list .

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Grail3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just get your name put on the list . Simple really. The list might be long but there is an end to the list .

No one is obligated to offer a list. Once they do they have to follow it (although it's not at all clear that the person who takes over has to), but by the server rules you can keep passing camps to your friends without a list ... which, right there, seems to be the entire crux of the problem.

If the staff just added a single rule, something to the effect of "everyone must maintain a list of people who want their camp if they want to hold a camp, and when they are done they must pass the camp to the first person on the list still present" it would completely eliminate lockdowns.

The fact that the staff hasn't created such a rule yet implies that they somehow think that rule would be worse (possibly for them, from a CS perspective) than camp locks.

[Razdeline]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disable the damn use in ToV already... they did this for Ivandyr's Hoops that 'trivialized content' in VP, how are these any different?

If programming it right now is an issue, just make a GM/Dev declaration that using these in pull tactics is considered exploit and bans / suspensions will result.

This. The item is being exploited so people can trivialize content. It creates a precedent which requires all to have to compete. Whoever has idols wins. How is this not a problem?

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Razdeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. The item is being exploited so people can trivialize content. It creates a precedent which requires all to have to compete. Whoever has idols wins. How is this not a problem?

Right.... If only you guys had idols you would compete in ToV.

And if idols didn't exist, ToV would be a fair place? You really don't think guilds that spend all their time camping idol camp won't do other things to get mobs to ent?

We should just rotate ToV so ALS and other guilds that don't bother doing anything in ToV can get the experience they deserve.

[Oleris]

Make necro lifetaps work against raid mobs again and I wouldn't care if Idols got nerfed. It would just make my bard and necro even more useful in TOV.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right.... If only you guys had idols you would compete in ToV.

And if idols didn't exist, ToV would be a fair place? You really don't think guilds that spend all their time camping idol camp won't do other things to get mobs to ent?

We should just rotate ToV so ALS and other guilds that don't bother doing anything in ToV can get the experience they deserve.

Train pulling entire zone is crazy cheese exploit anyway you look at it. That is the true culprit. Shocked GMs have allowed this for so long.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Train pulling entire zone is crazy cheese exploit anyway you look at it. That is the true culprit. Shocked GMs have allowed this for so long.

Can we agree that we would rather have them do something to adjust this than rotating the zone?

Or nah, fuck those losers who care and spend time on the game trying to get the best stuff.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we agree that we would rather have them do something to adjust this than rotating the zone?

Or nah, fuck those losers who care and spend time on the game trying to get the best stuff.

When I raided I would hope daily that suddenly I'd wake up the next day and the dragons would be perma rooted.

[Grail3r]

Where in the rules does it state that the owner of the camp can give the camp to anyone they wish ? I do not see this rule anywhere .

In fact a list is not even in the rules . So basically you turn up to camp , wait for person to leave . Then its your camp . If someone else comes along and takes camp before other person leaves then petition .