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Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Britain's universal healthcare sucks. Some highlights:

• A 2011 report demonstrated that the average cancer survival rate was 71.18% in the USA as compared to 54.48% in England.
• In Britain a shocking 4 million people languish on waiting lists according to official sources in a population of scarcely over 65 million
• 25% of British cardiac patients die waiting for treatment, and an investigation by a British newspaper found that delays in treatment for colon and lung cancer patients have been so long that 20% of cases were incurable by the time they finally received care
• NHS's budget has tripled since 1990
• According to the OECD Britain has the lowest number of doctors per thousand population in the advanced world

I am not defending crony capitalist system we have here, but socialism fails at medicine just like it fails at everything else.

What percentage of the population was covered by that cancer "study"? I clicked the source for that claim, it's literally 2 sentences and a chart. Not exactly credible to say the least. There are discrepancies but not nearly that large. Britain's numbers also cover 100% of the population while the U.S. numbers don't.
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/rese.../concord-2.htm

What is shocking about that? There are almost 30 million American's without health insurance, down from 45 million pre-Obamacare. 37% of the population is on some form of government insurance, without Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP we would probably have upwards 100 million people that couldn't afford to see a doctor.

It's a hell of a lot better to "languish on a waiting list" than to not be able to get any medical care outside of going to an emergency room and risking bankruptcy.

https://www.census.gov/library/publi...o/p60-264.html


The U.S. budget has quadrupled since 1990.
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...al_budget_fy90

It doesn't matter if a country has 100 doctors per 1000 if you're a person that can't afford to see one.

Britain's system has a lot of problems and isn't a model for the US, but our current system straight up excludes more than 1/3 of the country if government assistance is removed from the equation and that doesn't count the people that are under insured. How is that not a failing system?