Are you mortified about President Donald J. Trump?

[DMN]

Originally Posted by lonmoer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's astonishing how stupid some Trump supporters are that they don't realize that a wall won't stop the nearly 75% of illegals fly in and over stay visas and even if you built a 100 foot wall it can be defeated with a 101 foot ladder. In Jesse lee Petersen voice: Amazin.

This is pretty pathetic straw man., often the default argument of liberal NPCs. No one thinks the wall is going to magically stop it.

[Irulan]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

er, the illusion of such?

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think voting will do it.

These corrupt elites are dug in. We need to carve them out at the root.

That means violent uprising.

Government works for the citizens. Not multi-national corporations or "our allies".

American citizens are priority number one. Period.

I agree. I want to at least have an ideal to stand behind that doesn't = 1 giant world government where everyone is forced into an African peasants standard of living.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by lonmoer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's astonishing how stupid some Trump supporters are that they don't realize that a wall won't stop the nearly 75% of illegals fly in and over stay visas and even if you built a 100 foot wall it can be defeated with a 101 foot ladder. In Jesse lee Petersen voice: Amazin.

This is a dumb point, even stopping a bit pays for itself in welfare and social services for every anchor baby and parent.

[Lune]

I'll say it again: the wall is a do-nothing gesture meant to mollify the conservative voting base into believing their politicians are working on the problem.

In reality, Donald Trump and others like him will continue hiring illegals to clean their hotels and pick their crops, and illegals will continue to come, because they know "lucrative" work is available to them.

No, the progressive liberal alternative of porous borders and unlimited illegal asylum is not a good idea. But that doesn't make the wall anything other than a $5+ billion waste of money.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll say it again: the wall is a do-nothing gesture meant to mollify the conservative voting base into believing their politicians are working on the problem.

A tiny little wall isn't going to mollify anyone. It's been clearly conveyed, however, that Trump isn't the one to blame for nothing being done. When the recriminations start coming out for 2020 narratives, Trump can certainly offer up congress as the guilty party.

[America]

Originally Posted by lonmoer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's astonishing how stupid some Trump supporters are that they don't realize that a wall won't stop the nearly 75% of illegals fly in and over stay visas and even if you built a 100 foot wall it can be defeated with a 101 foot ladder. In Jesse lee Petersen voice: Amazin.

you can't beat a smartwall with anything short of EMP and some sort of anti aircraft fire.

Overstaying a legal visa doesn't allow ppl to just waltz in with an arbitrarily large amount of cargo.

Hope this helps liberal

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is pretty pathetic straw man., often the default argument of liberal NPCs. No one thinks the wall is going to magically stop it.

then why build it?

[America]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then why build it?

don't be mean.

obviously it is a filtration heuristic. It tilts the balance of the cost benefit ratio away from illigal immigration. You fucking dumbass.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by America [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

don't be mean.

obviously it is a filtration heuristic. It tilts the balance of the cost benefit ratio away from illigal immigration. You fucking dumbass.

don't interrupt

[Ripqozko]

Let's not forget secure fence act of 2006 when Democrats were all about and voted for it, suddenly Trump wants to and it's a no go.