New ToV rules

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry you don't get to monopolize the server anymore for your 7 day free loot conveyor belt!

IDK who you are, but you sound like a cuck. AAEZIL

Your name is dumb too. I bet you're fat and bald.

[Grizzler]

The amount of time does seem to be a bit much but I'm ok with trying it out. I think trying it for a time and then trying the no csr involvement for 6 months and go with which ever is better, as another above poster posted, sounds like the best route.

Although to be fair, im not huge into raiding and only raid to help my guildies who helped me get all the gear my chars have.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IDK who you are, but you sound like a cuck. AAEZIL

Your name is dumb too. I bet you're fat and bald.

I'm glad I triggered you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Now go take your rnfs to rnf!

[Prostatus]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The staff does not make major changes to the raid scene because one GM decides to

Is you memory that short?

I can still smell Sirken's motherboard frying

here is a link to one GM making major decisions to the raid scene

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=234528

And just like the Class system. Once the Gods of the sandbox see how fucked up the situation is they step in and try to play damage control. We all know this will not last but what we are all afraid of is the chaos it creates while its still in place.

[zarza]

The Olympic medal is worth fighting for and winning. They try and prepare for compensation. If everyone turns around and gets a medal easily, what value is it? We should not give a medal to the weak without effort. If you're weak, increase your strength. Win and be rewarded. In the online game, the game without competition is dead.
This is the reason why competition can be so engrossed in p99. I saw some small guilds become stronger than they were a few years ago and win the race. This was a very valuable victory for them. I sincerely congratulated you. Because they've been traking with us all night and seeing them spend their time preparing for win. And they're still growing up. But the problem is that the new rules I've seen try to get rid of their value and everyone's value. We know it. That's why p99 players don't want to go to live servers with instant dungeons

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Prostatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is you memory that short?

I can still smell Sirken's motherboard frying

here is a link to one GM making major decisions to the raid scene

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=234528

And just like the Class system. Once the Gods of the sandbox see how fucked up the situation is they step in and try to play damage control. We all know this will not last but what we are all afraid of is the chaos it creates while its still in place.

Huh? So they tried one thing (classes, and yes I do remember C and R and all that), then they tried another (earthquakes) and now they're trying another (rotations). Like any sane human they try to solve a problem one way, then when that solution doesn't work (or rather, it worked but had flaws) they try another solution hoping it won't be as flawed.

But what does any of that have to do with them forgetting what they just did and making the new change without even considering the previous one? You know, the thing I was actually arguing against?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by zarza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Olympic medal is worth fighting for and winning. They try and prepare for compensation. If everyone turns around and gets a medal easily, what value is it? We should not give a medal to the weak without effort. If you're weak, increase your strength. Win and be rewarded. In the online game, the game without competition is dead.
This is the reason why competition can be so engrossed in p99. I saw some small guilds become stronger than they were a few years ago and win the race. This was a very valuable victory for them. I sincerely congratulated you. Because they've been traking with us all night and seeing them spend their time preparing for win. And they're still growing up. But the problem is that the new rules I've seen try to get rid of their value and everyone's value. We know it. That's why p99 players don't want to go to live servers with instant dungeons

Wait ... did you just ... with a straight face (I can't actually see your face but you seemed serious) ... actually compare bat phoning/poop-socking/the P99 Raid scene to ... the fucking Olympics? Human athletes at their absolute peak potential ... vs. some guy with no life staring at a wall so that he can tweet his buddies and they can all sit at a computer for ten minutes?

Really?

[zodium]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Huh? So they tried one thing (classes, and yes I do remember C and R and all that), then they tried another (earthquakes) and now they're trying another (rotations). Like any sane human they try to solve a problem one way, then when that solution doesn't work (or rather, it worked but had flaws) they try another solution hoping it won't be as flawed.

But what does any of that have to do with them forgetting what they just did and making the new change without even considering the previous one? You know, the thing I was actually arguing against?

Imagine if the problem wasn't with the particular nature of the rulesets, but the lack of attempts to secure buy-in for any ruleset from the participants. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cen]

Originally Posted by zarza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Olympic medal is worth fighting for and winning. They try and prepare for compensation. If everyone turns around and gets a medal easily, what value is it? We should not give a medal to the weak without effort. If you're weak, increase your strength. Win and be rewarded. In the online game, the game without competition is dead.
This is the reason why competition can be so engrossed in p99. I saw some small guilds become stronger than they were a few years ago and win the race. This was a very valuable victory for them. I sincerely congratulated you. Because they've been traking with us all night and seeing them spend their time preparing for win. And they're still growing up. But the problem is that the new rules I've seen try to get rid of their value and everyone's value. We know it. That's why p99 players don't want to go to live servers with instant dungeons

Wouldnt the correct analogy equivocation be some athletes being allowed into the Olympics to begin with versus other athletes being barred, even if they may be stronger athletes?

If the actual FTE is what you consider the competition and not the content itself, then thats kind of terrible. Thats just a batphone

[aaezil]

People who stare at walls for multiple 16 hour windows and batphone for dragon kills at 3 am are not athletes, they are unemployed and should probably stop playing immediately.