New ToV rules

[Nikkanu]

Not to mention without a large chunk of the server (AM, AG, Core+BG, whatever is left of Tempest) spending several days a week in TOV the xp zones and cash camps are going to to all be on lockdown making the overcrowding problems so much worse, which is going to result in that many more petitions and frustrated players.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Nikkanu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was the appeal of AM for casuals like myself that work for a living. I could just log in when I had time to kill a dragon with my elf pals. This was the only thing that gave me and many others a reason to keep logging in. Now you will have to schedule your life around “TOV Day” or rarely ever get to raid. This hurts the smaller casual guilds even more than it hurts the big guilds, they just don’t realize it yet. Terrible change.

I work for a living. I worked for a living during classic era as well and I didn't get to spend all of my time on EQ when it was hot. The casual raiding like that wasn't classic but something hobbled together for P99. Batphones did not exist, at best you had ICQ or AOL IM pings during regular play hours. Just logging in when it suits you doesn't equal the BiS loots, never did. If that was all that kept you logging in then you got your nostalgia fix, join the guys who quit but forumquest. Perhaps a mobile game that is popular where you can spend some of that hard earned money for boosts and unlocks will appeal.

Yep, you will have to schedule a TOV day like a Sky day. Probably not going to be able to DVR your EQ experience in the age of convenience.

"What can EQ do for me?" .. not a goddamn thing.

[Metham]

We can have a ToV rotation, but can't have ZEM rotate dungeons.
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[Terrel]

I think it's great!

I understand some folks enjoy competing with other guilds to see who can mobilize the quickest.

That's not the competition I enjoy. I enjoy working with my friends to defeat the hardest mobs in the game.

That's not to denigrate the folks who enjoy that FTE competition. Different strokes for different folks.

But the reality is that you have tons of good to great players who aren't able to experience what they enjoy because their real life commitments don't allow them to log into p99 at the drop of a hat. I suspect these people comprise the majority of the raid capable player base. They are as skilled as the folks who are able to consistently get FTE; they just don't have the same availability.

So I'm psyched I'll get a chance to do what I like now, and enjoy a part of the game that I haven't really been able to up to this point.

Thanks Braknar! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[aaezil]

Lol all the casual am players are crying cause their 7 day weekly free loot conveyor belt is stopping and the hard core addicts that lock other guilds out of content because dealing with them in tov is such a nightmare are crying as well. Loot pinatas indeed

[Marmo]

An awful idea, with obvious unintended consequences that will hurt those it seeks to help, as all commie ideas do.

[Kindred_Redline]

As someone whose been dreaming of a staff of the silent star, this is devastating. Just instance the zone. This change is horrific, and the consequences will be real and immediate.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Kindred_Redline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone whose been dreaming of a staff of the silent star, this is devastating. Just instance the zone. This change is horrific, and the consequences will be real and immediate.

sorry you don't get to monopolize the server anymore for your 7 day free loot conveyor belt!

[Molitoth]

How a "bag limit" solution isn't implemented instead is beyond me.

Out of all the possible solutions, that one still inspires "Raid competition" while deflating the raid scene monopoly.

Guilds pick their targets, and they compete for them... but can't pick them all.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Terrel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's great!

I understand some folks enjoy competing with other guilds to see who can mobilize the quickest.

That's not the competition I enjoy. I enjoy working with my friends to defeat the hardest mobs in the game.

That's not to denigrate the folks who enjoy that FTE competition. Different strokes for different folks.

But the reality is that you have tons of good to great players who aren't able to experience what they enjoy because their real life commitments don't allow them to log into p99 at the drop of a hat. I suspect these people comprise the majority of the raid capable player base. They are as skilled as the folks who are able to consistently get FTE; they just don't have the same availability.

So I'm psyched I'll get a chance to do what I like now, and enjoy a part of the game that I haven't really been able to up to this point.

Thanks Braknar! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dragons aren't hard to kill. Please don't think that we raid because we enjoy the process of killing a mob once it is in camp.

What made this game fun at the high end was competing against other like minded individuals for loot that other people couldn't obtain. You say you are happy to now explore a zone you never have before. Well, consider the fact that this new rule will exclude players whose spent there last couple months doing nothing but practicing and playing in that same zone. These players now are just told to leave and do whatever while people who have never put time into learning the zone get free reign because god said so.

Also, on the notion of skill. Obviously anyone can preform the necessary actions to pull ToV dragons, it really isn't that hard. But why we deserve the loot is because we spend 10+hrs at a time just waiting for things to spawn and being ready for when they do. I don't think I'm special because I can no life a game, but I do think I deserve more loot than someone who spends 3 hours a night in dungeons or leveling an alt.

Was looking forward to raiding with Core, BG, and AG but I guess that will never happen.