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Old 01-24-2019, 09:08 PM
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so its just 1 damage per 3 levels from 28 on? there is no bonus at all for 2handers onp99 currently?
Correct. But after the melee balance patch 2-handers will have a separate table that will vary widely depending on the delay. Monks with good 2-handers will kinda be getting double buffed on that patch and I'm very interested in seeing how their DPS will parse.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:33 PM
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There's definitely lots of situations where that extra dex will come in handy.
Ok... Fine... Ill be THAT guy. And keep in mind the following post is only regarding one of the issues I previously stated with your sentiment towards the godly Woven Vine Wristband. A sentiment that you seem to be really holding on to as if saying its overpriced is some sort of insult to you.

Wiki gives us a rough formula for determining how many procs youll achieve with your mainhand. here it is

(Dex/170) + 0.5 = procs per minute rate for main hand.

Lets say for the sake of argument we're going to compare if a monk was to equip a Woven Vine Wristband VS https://wiki.project1999.com/Shiverback-hide_Wristbands (and im going easy on you here, there are other choices to close this dexterity gap even more). There is a difference between 5 dexterity between these two items. So lets use the formula

Monk A has 170 dexterity with Shiverback Wrist equipped.

Monk B has 175 dexterity with Woven Vine Wristband equipped.

Using the formula we determine that:

Monk A has a (170/170 + 0.5 =) 1.5 chances to proc per minute

Monk B has a (175/170 +0.5 =) 1.529 chances to proc per minute.

The difference in chances to proc per minute between these two monks is .029 thousandths chances per minute.

And you're basing your entire argument off of the fact that the extra dex is good for proccing. Meaning. Your rich ass would pay 30,000 platinum for an extra .029 thousandths chance of proccing. I'm sure that make a big deal when your monk needs to hold aggro huh??

This doesnt even allude to the other ideas I presented earlier. Like I could definitely find that extra .029 thousandths of a chance to proc from other gear without spending 30k...

Or how monks who proc an extra .029 thousandths of a chance per minute are going to piss off the tank (now that i've done the math I guess that point may be moot).

Or how most monks who can afford something for 30k can already MAX out their Dex if not from buffs.

I mean do I really have to keep going here? C'mon man let go of this absurd fascination with this wristband
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:51 AM
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If you haven't figured it out yet, doubling down on wrong (or stupid) is his M.O., apparently. You're wasting your time.
Wha?

You literally don’t understand the phrasing that different gear is BiS for different situations. Talk about doubling down....

Idk what math that guys doing but I notice a big difference when I stack dex vs when I don’t. When you get to a higher level with your gear, it’s a big deal for where you can squeeze out extra stats. I play with lots of different monks with all sorts of different high end gear and I definitely notice the difference between the types that have silver hide wristband gear vs woven vine wristband gear.

When you cheap out with a silver hide wristband now you’re sacrificing other stats as well. Woven vine wristband isn’t only for its dex but it also has great all around offensive stats.

Woven vine wristband has the 3rd best str/dex combo for any monk wrist item and it’s the only droppable in that range. Highest dex.

Compare that to cloak of confusion which is monks 3rd best back item and costs 55k. Not even tradeable/liquid. Also compare to a wrist guard of thunder which arguably doesn’t have as good offensive stats and goes for well over 100k.

Undervalue the item if you want but I think it’s rightfully near it’s 30k range considering how rare it is and how many classes could use it. Like I said, I use it on my shammy for proccing and I’m sure other classes can use it as well.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:12 AM
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Yeah was wondering also. Is warrior epic still a thing in velious? Anyone thinks lazer saber are worth 400k+ ?
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:31 PM
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Yeah was wondering also. Is warrior epic still a thing in velious? Anyone thinks lazer saber are worth 400k+ ?
Yeah, epics are a thing. However i've noticed its super unlikely for a warrior to acquire their epic before 60, and even a fresh 60 is going to have to wait some-time to get that dragonscale. Is it overpriced? I dont know... It's definitely rare to come across one, and the dragons that drop them are highly contested. Sev is a priority target for one guild in particular, I believe said guild actually sets him as the first encounter during an earthquake, they tend to use a majority of their raid force for that particular dragon so i've noticed that their guild has a higher percentage of warriors with epic, however that comes with a price because they cater their raid force to more lower priority targets.

Hoshkar drops em too, but not everyone has their VP key, so those scales are limited to the guilds that can bring a large enough force into Veeshans Peak.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:18 PM
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I just noticed that A Mithril Two-Handed Sword is definitely not worth the prices that people are asking for it.
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:33 PM
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I just noticed that A Mithril Two-Handed Sword is definitely not worth the prices that people are asking for it.
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Old 01-26-2019, 01:09 PM
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Lodi's Belt.

Loot rights (and/or MQ) for the PlunderPatchEye.

Busted prices. Must boycott. Or find sugar momma to fund me.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:00 PM
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Is there a way the wiki can be fixed so prices aren't displayed this way? Like if one person sells an item, it only shows their latest price? I saw someone wanting 1k for this robe because of one prankster.

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Old 01-28-2019, 12:45 AM
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Yeah was wondering also. Is warrior epic still a thing in velious? Anyone thinks lazer saber are worth 400k+ ?
They can just spam clickies for aggro in raids. Yay unintended recharging
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