Camp Rules

[loramin]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've packed a bag and i've booked the first plane flight to Russia! Am i reading sarcasm correctly?

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[Hotel]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Normally there is, as several people here have expressed. But as we've also expressed, this is far from the first "the staff done me wrong!" post we've seen, and in 95+% of these posts the OP leaves out some relevant details ... which is why we're waiting for all of the facts to come out before we jump to conclusions about staff misconduct or whatnot.

The reason I made this post was because I was confused on the specific rules and wasn't getting response from gms in days.

If a gm swoops in and proves that I'm just being a gigantic troll right now and I'm actually a douche I'd be fine with that. It's probably a bad look I have made this thread in the first place but I was really stuck in the water without a paddle in regards to my suspension.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a gm swoops in and proves that I'm just being a gigantic troll right now and I'm actually a douche I'd be fine with that.

First off, I should say that I commend you for trying to handle all this as respectfully as possible. That was certainly not the case with many posts of this sort in the past.

And look, I did leave open a 5% chance, because of course the staff are human beings and human beings make mistakes. Plus I know they've been recruiting for new support team members recently, so maybe someone new was just getting used to the role and reacted a bit too strongly.

It's just that historically (and this has absolutely nothing to do with you), this is far from the first post like this, and in the vast majority of those threads it turned out the OP didn't provide all the facts. People in those threads made judgments about the staff, only to find out how wrong those judgements were when all the facts came out.

So historically you're in bad company, but FWIW I'd always like to believe people are being honest, and it would be great if this worked out such that, instead of calling you a troll, a new staff member showed up here and said "hey I'm new, I goofed a bit on this one, your suspension has been lifted." IF you're being honest I am absolutely rooting for that outcome.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, I should say that I commend you for trying to handle all this as respectfully as possible. That was certainly not the case with many posts of this sort in the past.

And look, I did leave open a 5% chance, because of course the staff are human beings and human beings make mistakes. Plus I know they've been recruiting for new support team members recently, so maybe someone new was just getting used to the role and reacted a bit too strongly.

It's just that historically (and this has absolutely nothing to do with you), this is far from the first post like this, and in the vast majority of those threads it turned out the OP didn't provide all the facts. People in those threads made judgments about the staff, only to find out how wrong those judgements were when all the facts came out.

So historically you're in bad company, but FWIW I'd always like to believe people are being honest, and it would be great if this worked out such that, instead of calling you a troll, a new staff member showed up here and said "hey I'm new, I goofed a bit on this one, your suspension has been lifted." IF you're being honest I am absolutely rooting for that outcome.

I'm honestly nervous that I came off too good because If I'm in the wrong it looks even worse now. I pray that I can get a reinstatement before all the dragons are dead this week [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bardp1999]

The staff hold little to no value in the court of public opinion - FYI

If your petition has failed then there will be nothing to do but wait out the 7 or 30 days

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The staff hold little to no value in the court of public opinion - FYI

If your petition has failed then there will be nothing to do but wait out the 7 or 30 days

I stated my intentions for this thread a million times. To my knowledge, they aren't aware of my petition.

[Coridan]

If you're high enough to clear all the orcs solo are you even getting XP for it? If you're just interested in the Idol why care about someone nabbing one or two spawns by the zoneline for scalps/xp/faction whatever he was there for? In Classic there were usually two orc groups because nobody was running around with Green Jade Broadswords and other super cheap Kunark gear.

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're high enough to clear all the orcs solo are you even getting XP for it? If you're just interested in the Idol why care about someone nabbing one or two spawns by the zoneline for scalps/xp/faction whatever he was there for? In Classic there were usually two orc groups because nobody was running around with Green Jade Broadswords and other super cheap Kunark gear.

Being in range to get experience from a mob with a key item has never, ever, ever been an issue with camps on the server. Like, ever. The idol that drops is a specific one of a kind deal with its effect that is especially useful in raiding, or for personal use in reaching a location that would normally be a death sentence to try. Plane of Mischief zone click is the first example that comes to mind.

There's no burden on any player to cheerfully farm plat in some other location and then enter EC hoping that an appropriate level player happened to score the item they need from a camp they were able to get experience from. A player mowing down orcs for CB belts? That kind of thing is garbage and should be called out. A player mowing down orcs for a specific item that might not even make an appearance of 3-4 days of camping, if their luck is bad? It's not even the same thing.

[Tupakk]

1st Suspensions is 7 days. 2nd 30 days. 3rd their discretion. For those that say they show up and talk to you first, they dont. They watch you and make a decision based on what they see.

On top of that they are back logged with petitions as is so it will be a few days if they even answer you.

People are asshole, I wouldnt put it past them to be in another guild and wanted the spawn spot for themselves and just out lawyerquested you.

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[Jimjam]

This petition was surely tactical and aimed at taking control of the camp by a rival guild.

Also, I thought pathing outdoor mobs couldn't be camped? Orcs, even idol, should be FTE. Let chaos reign!