How alt right forum trolls argue and how to deal with them.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The "privilege" people speak about is actually the "sacrifice" someone made before them, making an investment in their children's future. To shame or take that from them would be to steel from people who made a long term investment.

What ever happened to "equality of opportunity"?

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[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Climate change is a joke. Let me break it down for you:

• Everyone agrees that CO2 absorbs more infrared light (reflected back from the earth) than visible light (from the sun), i.e. the greenhouse effect
• The temperature change directly from CO2 is quite low and declines logarithmically. Note that we are already at 400ppm, which means that going from here to an atmosphere of 100% CO2 would only result in another 2 degrees C in warming.
• The dramatic claims of climate change come from computer models that predict a massive increase in water vapor, which is a much more effective greenhouse gas. Trying to model a complex chaotic system on a computer is somewhere between difficult and impossible.
• Even if you believe the computer models, it's not clear that a warmer earth is bad. Plants love hot and wet, and historically humans have done the best during warm periods. NYC may be under water, but Canada will be great!
• Even if you are convinced that global warming is categorically bad, there is no real way to do anything about it, since China is the big driver of global warming and they don't give a fuck.

This is my primary environmental concern. But isn't the best thing to do to stop accepting immigrants? More people = more pollution.

can't wait for florida to fall into the sea

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Climate change is a joke. Let me break it down for you:

• Everyone agrees that CO2 absorbs more infrared light (reflected back from the earth) than visible light (from the sun), i.e. the greenhouse effect
• The temperature change directly from CO2 is quite low and declines logarithmically. Note that we are already at 400ppm, which means that going from here to an atmosphere of 100% CO2 would only result in another 2 degrees C in warming.
• The dramatic claims of climate change come from computer models that predict a massive increase in water vapor, which is a much more effective greenhouse gas. Trying to model a complex chaotic system on a computer is somewhere between difficult and impossible.
• Even if you believe the computer models, it's not clear that a warmer earth is bad. Plants love hot and wet, and historically humans have done the best during warm periods. NYC may be under water, but Canada will be great!
• Even if you are convinced that global warming is categorically bad, there is no real way to do anything about it, since China is the big driver of global warming and they don't give a fuck.

This is my primary environmental concern. But isn't the best thing to do to stop accepting immigrants? More people = more pollution.

Could you repeat that? I couldn't understand you with your head buried in the sand like an ostrich.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What ever happened to "equality of opportunity"?

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Move to russia for what you consider equality of opportunity.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could you repeat that? I couldn't understand you with your head buried in the sand like an ostrich.

You're attacking the messenger instead of the message.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Move to russia for what you consider equality of opportunity.

Hm. A 100% inheritance tax seems like a fair compromise. We are all created equal, are we not?

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hm. A 100% inheritance tax seems like a fair compromise. We are all created equal, are we not?

Would that include children of people who took advantage of affirmative action?

[Raev]

In a thread about how the alt right is a crew of internet trolls who type nothing but 1-line rhetorical fallacies, all of the people who would identify as left are typing nothing but 1-line rhetorical fallacies, while all of the people who would identify as right are writing pretty earnestly. It's ok fellow right-pals, the rabbits know the tide is turning. Wonkie probably dreams about sex with Trump.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hm. A 100% inheritance tax seems like a fair compromise. We are all created equal, are we not?

Oh dear god, I'm arguing with Scarred Child and Mick on this one, but here goes anyway.

As much as I like the idea, my conservative friend has convinced me that a 100% inheritance tax is impossible. Let's say you implement it. What will every rich parent do? Give all their money to their children (at the less than 100% gift tax rate).

Basically you can't have 100% inheritance tax, or any inheritance tax that's higher than the gift tax. And you can't have 100% gift tax (people like to be able to give each other, and their children, gifts).

But I do fully support making the two the exact same rate.

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a thread about how the alt right is a crew of internet trolls who type nothing but 1-line rhetorical fallacies, all of the people who would identify as left are typing nothing but 1-line rhetorical fallacies

It's almost like some of us were deliberately adopting the very techniques long used against us ... but clearly not me, as I obviously failed by being neither brief nor substance-less with this post.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a thread about how the alt right is a crew of internet trolls who type nothing but 1-line rhetorical fallacies, all of the people who would identify as left are typing nothing but 1-line rhetorical fallacies, while all of the people who would identify as right are writing pretty earnestly. It's ok fellow right-pals, the rabbits know the tide is turning and their only recourse is turning off topic into RNF-lite.

Start taking E if you're gonna cheerlead so hard. I wanna see em bounce.