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[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And here is the entire point of this thread.

GM-A says the rules are that if a named has multiple spawn points, it's first to engage.

Player-A pulls a named in KC (which has multiple spawn points), kills it, gets loot. Player-B who happened to be camping nearby petitions. GM-B shows up.

GM-B says that Player-A shouldn't have pulled the named and Player-A gives the drop to Player-B

GM-B effectively undermines the rules stated by GM-A because all CSR have their own set of rules that contradict other CSRs' rules.

Fill in GM-A and GM-B with names, and one specific example. I'm calling you out on it, and I guarantee you can't do it without finagling details as described here:

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And after that hour, everyone present will spam whoever made whatever decision with tells isolating single lines or words from the rules to try to twist the situation in their favor. You can't always break a camp dispute decision down into a single facet. It usually involves a comprehensive understanding of the situation, and in most cases, a lot of guessing over who's telling how much of the truth.

[quido]

Yeah I really don't care about the one relatively worthless item I lost today and am not really trying to make an issue of it; I do not seek an appeal. I seek merely to clarify the issue so that I know whether I'm in the right or the wrong going forward. The incident that occurred with Eashan this morning was pretty understandable on both sides of the table. I've always liked Eashan personally and that hasn't changed today because of a stupid Jade Mace. The truth is I would have pulled that mob regardless - named or not, mace or not. I'm more concerned with people threatening to be a waste of time and space over one trash exp mob when there are multiple others up. Get over it and pull something else, in my opinion. Or put the furious effort you apply to crying in /say towards pulling more foes.

[Asher]

How many camps are in Crypt in Old Sebilis?

I understand that people can claim named but in every Crypt group I have ever done crypt takes the 4 rooms, the roaming cube and emp.

If I walk in and see that Baron Yosig or PH is up can I park in the room and claim the camp? This would obviously be a dickish thing to do but I am curious how the rules would apply to a camp like that.

Asher

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would obviously be a dickish thing to do

Pretty sure the rules are created to stop dickish things from happening. You probably answered yourself, but I'm not exactly an authority on the matter.

Also, as of a couple of weeks ago emp/crypt were being treated as separate camps.

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many camps are in Crypt in Old Sebilis?

I understand that people can claim named but in every Crypt group I have ever done crypt takes the 4 rooms, the roaming cube and emp.

If I walk in and see that Baron Yosig or PH is up can I park in the room and claim the camp? This would obviously be a dickish thing to do but I am curious how the rules would apply to a camp like that.

Asher

Ive seen this done before. Iirc.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Seaweedpimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive seen this done before. Iirc.

The way I read the rules this is perfectly legit, although a nice way to get blacklisted from future groups once the word gets out.

Asher

[Seaweedpimp]

Usually it wouldnt even matter, Its allways top guild vs top guild, but neither are all over crypt like they used to when it came available.

[Zereh]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the time they've blown their whine wad

hahah <3

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many camps are in Crypt in Old Sebilis?

I understand that people can claim named but in every Crypt group I have ever done crypt takes the 4 rooms, the roaming cube and emp.

If I walk in and see that Baron Yosig or PH is up can I park in the room and claim the camp? This would obviously be a dickish thing to do but I am curious how the rules would apply to a camp like that.

Asher

This is the sort of ridiculousness that uthgaard was talking about when he said that camp disputes take 2.5 hours to solve.

There are people that defend the idea that if you're sitting on the spawn point its yours, but you cannot sit in another persons camp and pull their mobs, as Rogean stated lord room in lguk is the camp and the hallway is the gray area you don't see people sitting at each mobs spawn.

Crypt is easily 1 room = 1 camp and I highly doubt that any gm would allow people to sit on the named spawn and claim it.

[Noser]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are people that defend the idea that if you're sitting on the spawn point its yours, but you cannot sit in another persons camp and pull their mobs, as Rogean stated lord room in lguk is the camp and the hallway is the gray area you don't see people sitting at each mobs spawn.

That's how it is. I've lost fungi king because we were pulling him to exit and someone swooped into the spawn room for the claim. I've also won a race to king by invis'ing to his spawn point and dealing with the roamers. Like Jeremy said it depends on how bad you want the camp. You may have to sacrifice safety and exp to hold down that spawn point but if you are willing to do it then the named is yours.