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Old 05-01-2018, 11:01 AM
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Additional evidence supporting that golems are dubious (kind of makes sense since they are 'constructs' and not elementals), so perhaps summoned mobs (except yael) = agro /con message, golems = actual faction standing message?

http://web.archive.org/web/200203310...ne=99&start=25
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Jul 7th 2:50 PM 2001
I have one of the mules that you speak of. he is a halfling rogue that worships brell. He has become so popular that he has actually become a fond character of mine. I perform corpse retrievals for a fee. A fee I will never spend, but a fee just the same. He is even in a guild with a good reputation. I know that zone like the back of my hand, assuming that it is not behind a locked door.

The elementals do not agro on me even when they con "Ready to Attack." The Golems are Dubious. Rat Warriors and the Reverents attack on site.
Other interesting info here on con messages:
http://web.archive.org/web/200203311...art=75&zone=99
Quote:
Jul 4th 1:25 AM 2000
After hearing rumors that minions of Brell Sirilis may walk unhindered here, I went... at level 7, my reborn enchanter entered the hole with ease. The four elemental warriors right up front conned glowering, but most beyond this point conned threatening. However, carrying only a few foods and waters, i ventured forth and discovered that the KOS elementals (some also warriors, but also crusaders and channelers) simply hated me, but though better of attacking me. Perhaps they were envious of my god's approval (hehe.) I passed them with ease, and drew further in. I came upon a place where I needed a key to enter, but in going down the the ground far below, found entryways into the same building this locked door led to. I wasn't in the building long, though, as I ended up in tunnels deep below ground. Once this area opened up, I saw my first ratman and my first flighty fiend. Assuming perhaps a similiar treatment, I ventured forth and was quickly aggroed upon by both the fiend and the ratman. I died rather swiftly. Also, the rather stationary rock/stone golems strewn about the place were also Glowering. Being 7th season and all, I couldn't see what was about, but I may attempt some day to visit the establishment for a fine coating of loam (which no one can say wouldn't be useful at such a young and tender age.)
Seems to support a 'mix and match' on the elemental cons, and golems being dubious. I believe the 'threatening' he refers to was short hand for 'KoS'. I am doubtful the fiend actually attacked him, but the rat only (the fiend paths so may have looked like attacking near the pool room).

Some other info on that link showing that earth elemental illusion + collaboration conned amiable to some, but scowling to others (would support a 'mix and match' on elementals).

Also mention of necro skeleton illusion able to walk through most areas (assuming they hadn't killed anything yet).
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