AW...whelp..here it goes again...

[Phatez]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only got old examples since I don't raid much on P99 anymore, because the rules at their current state allow edge to people who are willing to cheat and break the rules so I rather play on server without any raiding rules.

But there was this CT some time ago when you could still kite trash outside of leashing range while killing CT and after CSG engaged CT and had kite under control AM members used bladestoppers and mallets etc. to overagro mobs from CSGs kite to bring them close enough to CT to get CSG raid trained. AM didn't eat punishment for it, eventho server staff agreed that you had wronged, but this rule change went in instead: "Removed: All bits dictating what a concession must be, and all bits stating that they must be accepted.". Because at that time it was common strategy that A/A did some very shady shit to get "wins" and when you got caught you only lost 1 mobs loots, since concessions must have been accepted if it was offered.

Then there was one time in ST when MOTG and Prog were up and AM pulled MOTG first kiting trash around in the big room and you kept the kite going eventho you didn't have to anymore (I understand that you were just prepping to pull Prog next), then CSG went ahead and pulled Prog and the moment our puller entered big room your guys dropped their kite on top of our puller to get him killed and making us fail the pull. Our pullers werent frapsing, so there was no proof what had happened.

And this is just couple examples, I think I can manage to remember few more if you want.

I guess this is completely off topic but I genuinely am curious about this. If someone is kiting 4+ mobs at 100% hp are you not allowed to rip those mobs off them? I was under the impression you are. If a bard is kiting all of fear is another bard allowed to bladestopper them to rip the kite and bring the mobs in for AoE? Not sure...

[Phatez]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vulak was clean. Our tank died, and we had no back up, so we tried to run it away. Unfortunately, with AM being on the agro list, we couldn't. How is that not interfering with a conceded mob?

The wipe? Completely Awakened's fault. The validity of a guild who conceded a mob standing where it is being killed, and then complaining that they got wiped out due to their own guild getting on the mob's agro list? Debatable.

Anyway, I never said AM should have left the zone, but you should have no standing on a mob that you conceded and decided to sit at entrance to watch.

The only reason a guild should have to leave the entrance to ToV is if they are raid suspended!

[raato]

Originally Posted by Phatez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess this is completely off topic but I genuinely am curious about this. If someone is kiting 4+ mobs at 100% hp are you not allowed to rip those mobs off them? I was under the impression you are. If a bard is kiting all of fear is another bard allowed to bladestopper them to rip the kite and bring the mobs in for AoE? Not sure...

They were ripping the mobs of from a controlled kite to train another raid party. I'm under impression that is a raid interference.

[supermonk]

I’m kind of annoyed. Raiding is more fun with comp. 70 day straight raid suspension is rough. Try to keep morale, hopefully gms can give early parole or something.

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Phatez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess this is completely off topic but I genuinely am curious about this. If someone is kiting 4+ mobs at 100% hp are you not allowed to rip those mobs off them? I was under the impression you are. If a bard is kiting all of fear is another bard allowed to bladestopper them to rip the kite and bring the mobs in for AoE? Not sure...

Yes you can.

[Prismaticshop]

So, when is Detoxx posting April madness ?

[Argh]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need to start implementing permanent leadership bans as part of these suspensions - at this point that will be the only way to actually save AW as a raiding entity

An Eratani and Breaken ban would immediately make the raid scene a lot better.

[Rang]

In the immortal words of a forum hero

(sorry you didn't get raid)

"Competition" on a PvE based server is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. This server will work best with 1 top end guild and lesser feeder guilds getting rotated epic completion content.

If you want "competition", the PvP server is available. Someone trained you? Instead of berging about it in tells/on forum, you can go kill that player. Problem solved.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An Eratani and Breaken ban would immediately make the raid scene a lot better.

Welcome to the twilight zone

[gnatte]

Originally Posted by Uberom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good idea. Would rather not play a game where the admins tell me when/where I can play. Sounds like a real hoot.

Posting on forums of a game you don't play sounds awesome, you must be a cool guy.