Detoxx is a hypocrite

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken and co. must be so sick of changing the raid rules (and adding 2x monthly repops) only to have 80% of the server complain every time. "We need this" or "If only they would change this." You guys accidentally picked the server that is unforgiving to casual guilds, which I admit is a little bit of a tough break. But then you continue to choose to be in casual guilds and wonder why its not going your way. Adapt by leaving the server or joining the top guilds. There is nothing that they can do or will do for you.

Its really not about casual or hardcore, I think the point is what you are doing (logging in for 5 mins, killing a NToV dragon, logging out) was not the classic experience back in the day. So ensuring a zone-line pull is not possible would provide a more classic experience.

Some may argue how possible those pulls were as current live has a shorter leash range than P99 in the Temple of Veeshan.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken and co. must be so sick of changing the raid rules (and adding 2x monthly repops) only to have 80% of the server complain every time. "We need this" or "If only they would change this."

I think there are about 50 people on the server who really enjoy the wall-staring, racing, direct head-to-head competition, and showing off their full BIS in the EC tunnel. Then you have the the additional 400 or so who are willing to log in for 5 minutes for pixel dopamine but don't really enjoy it, and the 20,000 who hate it with a passion. I think the staff is gradually realizing this and fumbling for ways to improve, but it's tough without changing the mechanics a bit. Personally I think the League Promotion System is the answer, but as Motec says our current 'hardcore' guilds might be a bit to casual to actually do the content.

Originally Posted by Legday

You guys accidentally picked the server that is unforgiving to casual guilds, which I admit is a little bit of a tough break. But then you continue to choose to be in casual guilds and wonder why its not going your way. Adapt by leaving the server or joining the top guilds. There is nothing that they can do or will do for you.

100% agree. TAKP is a lot of fun if you can handle the boxing and the older client. Or Daybreak is launching another progression server, which actually (gasp) goes beyond Velious!

[Sadiki]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Adapt by leaving the server or joining the top guilds

10/10 very insightful

learning a lot today about how America operated in the 1600s

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its really not about casual or hardcore, I think the point is what you are doing (logging in for 5 mins, killing a NToV dragon, logging out) was not the classic experience back in the day. So ensuring a zone-line pull is not possible would provide a more classic experience.

Some may argue how possible those pulls were as current live has a shorter leash range than P99 in the Temple of Veeshan.

For sure agree, but I don't know if the staff cares if the play styles are classic. There is no way they could expect that to remain a constant.

[Alde]

You can't 'force' a server to stay classic when the content progression stops and stuck at Velious forever. Only possible way would be to wipe the server when the timeline meets The Shadows of Luclin release and re-start as a TLP server up to Luclin again, again and again..

I personally don't understand all the QQ. You get an awesome (most classic too) server for free, yet ppl keep complaining. Legday pretty much got the point here.

Adapt by leaving the server or joining the top guilds. There is nothing that they can do or will do for you.

Oh, and Detoxx is a saint.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Alde [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't 'force' a server to stay classic when the content progression stops and stuck at Velious forever. Only possible way would be to wipe the server when the timeline meets The Shadows of Luclin release and re-start as a TLP server up to Luclin again, again and again..

I personally don't understand all the QQ. You get an awesome (most classic too) server for free, yet ppl keep complaining. Legday pretty much got the point here.



Oh, and Detoxx is a saint.

Can "join us or leave the server" be AM's new official motto?

[Argh]

How is not raiding because of muh playstyle but constantly lobbying (or just praying) for new rules a better use of time than just showing up and racing against A/A?

[Alde]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can "join us or leave the server" be AM's new official motto?

Depends on your goals but if you plan to raid with Detoxx, pretty much that's it. :P

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is not raiding because of muh playstyle but constantly lobbying (or just praying) for new rules a better use of time than just showing up and racing against A/A?

I guess on a basis of sheer quantity of time used, making a post suggesting new rules takes a couple of orders of magnitude less time than socking every target on the server. It probably took me less than 2 minutes to post this. How long do you think it takes to successfully compete against the top guilds on p99 for raid targets?

[maskedmelon]

SOOOO tired of seeing this structured as a "hardcore" vs. "casuals" thing. There are more casuals than hardcores on both sides the fence and guess what? most of them don't care that much, BECAUSE THEY ARE CASUAL. This is a winners vs. losers issue, with losing hardcores angry that they can't impose their impotent ideology on everyone else.

Join a winning team, build a better one or play a different game. don't try to change this one.