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Old 03-01-2018, 07:36 AM
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Regardless of the circumstances of this incident, I’m quite happy that a more heavy handed approach is being used now. We have a free server with volunteer staff. The raid scene is toxic and in a lot of cases you either have people gearing out their 5th alt or the new player freshly siphoned away from a lesser guild - frustrated that their previous guild was elbowed out of content.

We aren’t going past velious. How many times must you kil the same dragon?

All of that aside, the only real problem is that the competitive nature of the raid scene devolves into bat-phoning, rule lawyering, and childish behavior. If you can’t play nice in the sand box, repeat offenders should face exponential consequences.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:45 AM
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Its not about being more sensitive, as this can happen to you! or azure guard or PS or aftermath, Accidents when everyone is pulling at the same time happen. No one fucked each other over for pixels a mistake happened, times like these are way better to make a deal with the said guild than ban every one members from doing the thing they love for a whole month for that guilds pixels over 1 mob 1 mistake
Rules clearly state that penalties are subject to increasing over time for repeat offenders.

I doubt a guild like Kittens et al would get a 30 day. I see this as a stern warning shot across the bow to the big dogs. When you have a long history of prior offenses, there should be less tolerance.

To piggy-back off my last post, this appears to be a true accidental fuck up, but it’s a symptom of a bigger problem. If the raid scene wasn’t the way it is where man-children camp in/out ready to tag and pull before asking “should I?” - that’s a problem. People are so used to this practice that it’s common place and bad for everyone.

“How” people raid on p99 is a problem. This incident (accident or otherwise) is a symptom of that problem. I’m surprised it’s taken the volunteer staff this long to get truly harsh.
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:03 AM
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There's really no point to a 30 day unless the goal is intentionally kill off guilds and make players quit. I mean, really, people can't play for a 10th of a year because some random losers wiped and had to try again in 5 minutes? I'm not even in that guild and it's just totally asinine.
So what? It's just the server wipe everyone's been asking for.
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:13 AM
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Curious as to who CSG was in this case? Was it the traditional group of ag/Omni/Europa? Or are we now just calling any guild(s) that aren't a/a that are in our general vicinity "csg".
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:31 AM
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it was AG/euro/omni yes.
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:37 AM
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Curious as to who CSG was in this case? Was it the traditional group of ag/Omni/Europa?
By coincidence and good fortune, there were just enough AG, Europa, and Omni players at the zone in to make an attempt
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:59 AM
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Here is another fucking crazy idea.. How about a raid rotation so people aren't holding each other's genitals at zone in?
PM'd Chest, I think he might be interested.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:12 AM
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This mob was intentionally pulled onto a raid target at entrance with 10 % life left. Dick move to do. Could of just nicely waited until mob was killed. Common courtesy goes a long way
100% wrong. Our puller didn't know we were set up in the cubby and puller to entrance by accident. We already conceeded Eashen previously. It was a communication issue, but keep rocking that tinfoil hat pal. This is what happens when 5 guilds bum rush ToV and instant engaged are necessity to aquire mobs.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:16 AM
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This mob was intentionally pulled onto a raid target at entrance with 10 % life left. Dick move to do. Could of just nicely waited until mob was killed. Common courtesy goes a long way
100% wrong. Our puller didn't know we were set up in the cubby and puller to entrance by accident. We already conceeded Eashen previously. It was a communication issue, but keep rocking that tinfoil hat pal. This is what happens when 5 guilds bum rush ToV and instant engaged are necessity to aquire mobs. In the land of 20day + suspensions why would anyone purposely train and wipe.... Use logic.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:35 AM
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