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Old 02-08-2018, 11:36 AM
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This is a troll thread, isn't it? I'm onto you OP.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:52 AM
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You could probably get away with not pulling until your 30s but eventually groups are going to expect you to pull. Monks are excellent at it.
Monks are actually not excellent at it anymore. Content exists that requires it within the raid scene but for standard group pulling after the sneak/fd nerf, any class that can harmony/lull performs better.

The time it takes to fd split content is time wasted unless the content REQUIRES you to split it.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:25 PM
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Monks are actually not excellent at it anymore. Content exists that requires it within the raid scene but for standard group pulling after the sneak/fd nerf, any class that can harmony/lull performs better.

The time it takes to fd split content is time wasted unless the content REQUIRES you to split it.
Even when split pulling was a thing I almost preferred to pull on my Bard because

1) Eye of Zomm Helm (more of a gimmick really, but can keep singing mana song and pull simultaneously so it works even though PITA). Places like SolB it works well.

2) Selos

3) Lul/mez

Shadow Knight can snare split now. Problem is FD has a long recast so when it f#cks up you are probably going to die. That's why necro has never really been a "pull" class because the FD fail rate/recast makes it an insta gib usually on a room break.

Monk definitely has a place, but its pretty hard to beat Bard IMO. Only reason Bards get a break is because the casters all want mana song pumping non stop.

Enchanters are excellent pullers if it wasn't for needing to sit to med. Chanters can break rooms better than anyone though.

I have actually got pretty good at pulling Mistmoore castle on my Druid, way more effective than it ever was on my monk
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:50 PM
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OP, a lot of classes are easy to twink/solo. If you don’t wanna pull, go ranger. Still good dps, a lot of utility, and can be twinked pretty easily. Can easily solo till 50 with a fungi/fbss/woodsmans staff. 50+ with panic animal fear is doable too.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:53 PM
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A good Necromancer should keep Harmshield up to help survive feign fails, and a really good one might also carry various heal or invulnerability click items. Due to Death Peace, level 60 Shadow Knights make excellent pullers nowadays, and Blood Ember legs can help wealthy Shadow Knights from 45-onward. That being said, snare-splitting works easily and reliably but it isn't particularly quick. Monks generally get the job done more quickly than I can on my Shadow Knight, even if Monks require more finesse now than they used to.

Most groups and guilds won't want a Monk who doesn't perform his primary job (pulling). Of course, you don't need most guilds to accept the non-pulling Monk; you only need one. Pick-up groups might be spotty even if you join as a non-pulling second Monk. If the first one leaves, guess who they'll look at for pulling? As with Warriors who don't want to be tanks or Clerics who don't want to be main healers and other cases of a player wanting to focus on a class's secondary jobs, it's best to do this type of thing if you have friends to group with in advance.


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Old 02-08-2018, 01:10 PM
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What à joke, roll tank
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:10 PM
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just start the group, then no one can bitch
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:28 PM
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If you wanna monk and not pull be ready to Solo to 60. However, during said solo'ing you will essentially have to pull for yourself 1-60.

If you want to sit semi AFK in camp and click a few buttons play Cleric (only heal when need to), Rogue/Warrior - have mobs brought to you on a silver platter then DPS and AFK until more in.

If you just want a melee DPS without pulling try ranger (cool utility okay dPS), rogue (better DPS than monk), warrior (can tank), shadowknight (can pull more often serve as tank), or shaodwknight (can tank).

If you just want to have an amazingly geared monk b/c they're op and you just want to sit in EC in fancy gear or solo by yourself, and you plan on siphoning away gear from hero monks who put their blood, sweat, and tears into all your pulls... then join a guild that has FREE DKP loot policies to give you access to BIS stuff on your scrub alts and main a non-gear dependent class like cleric?!!?!?!/

I dunno man, monks get a lot of grief for not pulling!? BLAME IT ON THE SYSTEM
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:42 PM
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Warriors out dps monks anyways, so why not make a warrior? Just stick him with monk weaps like jade maces and go to town
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:44 PM
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because he wants to play a monk, he wants to feign death and shit

he doesn't want to be a clunky armor filled warrior. how do you simpletons not understand this

oi vey
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