This just in Detoxx and Henrique makeup!

[RedXIII]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im a warm body with zero tracking the last month. Its way easier for me to raid in current ruleset than be in CSG and spend 72 hours crawling ToV. So its in my interests to not have the only 2 real raid capable guilds banned.

Your leaders have been given a myriad of options for a rotation and means to reduce petition. Detoxx is a small part of this process - it strikes me you dont know how Am operate if you think Detoxx is some sort of dictator : his active officers run the guild and the last offer made to Awk was to ROTATE MOBS OVER XMAS/NEW YEARS so BOTH guilds could spend time with F+F.
Now why would Eratani and Breakn decline such a sensible approach? Do they have no family or friends or did their active DKP raiders tell them not to accept a rotation over the holiday season ? (by extension suggesting your active DKP raiders have no friends or family)

we dont like rotations. Not the majority of us. Is that a crime? How about not compete these two weeks if u guys rather go do stuff with family? Velious is here forever... Post on guild thread that u guys taking a vacation and no harm done. Doubt ppl would brag about uncontested pixels.

I did not vote because i am with my girls family right now, so i cannot play for the next 9 days. So i will not put weight in something that i will not participate. But there is people who will be online and would like to kill stuff... Should they not be allowed?

People live and play the game in different ways. Respect that and let the majority decides, when what they decide is not good for you/your guild, adjust. Dont try and make ppl look like assholes just because they disagree with you.

Play the game the way you want. Rotating stuff shouldnt be a fix to petition. Some ppl like to compete. Crazy right? Shrugs, thats their fun... Let them have it while they are still the majority.

Have fun with your family Skew, in the end thats what matters.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

abuse?! KoS mobs at picture room dude. A safe area for non KoS people.

Also, remember that last suspension Awakened had were stuff was brought down by Kluwen and Harbogast zoned in ToV and it agro him and that caused a train at entrance?

1)Train gets chained down by Kluwen, he dies with KoS mobs in LoS to ToV door, chains down to Harbogast. Result: Awakened suspended.
2)Train gets droped on top of Awakened monk, he gets AE'd, ppl claim he chained agro down to some Aftermeth (even thou fraps doesnt show it). Result: Awakened suspended.

Consistency and clear calls. Cant even blame the GMs on that one because piece of shit Detoxx petitions anything and everything hoping something sticks. And then you ask why my guildleaders dont wanna make agreements or deals with this guy?!

Getsome got tired of TMO lawyer quest bullshit. Hokushin pick up the torch and gets tired of it and quits... Next is Breaken/Eratani to quit. Dealing with a sychopat like Detoxx is impossible, and Aftermeth officers follow his lead, the koolaid is strong. Sooner or later he "wins" because crywolf is not enforced. And ppl get tired of the bullshit and quit.

I am unbiased, when my guild fucks up i call them out. I am not here to win by cheating. I like a fair competition and sadly Detoxx, Nalken, Aikons and lately Slaysh are unable to not cheat.

Obv this is RnF and ppl will keep spinning, i just hope someday Rogean and Nilbog will make clear rules and enforce them, until that time we know how Detoxx works: Try compete fair, gets rekt, try cheat, still gets rekt, petition his ass out trying to burn us out.

Think about it, if you ever dealt with Detoxx you know its true. He makes Umbrella feels like a nice guy.

I think you forgot to recruit for lawyerquest. You'll always lose the "argument" without a nihilist on your side.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Hyperbole [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meaning he sent them a message on one of his low level toons and they responded once or twice. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im digging this new RNF faction.

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[skarlorn]

Pokesan clue me in to who I need to bully here. I'm thinking Lhance but haven't read a word of the last few pages

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pokesan clue me in to who I need to bully here. I'm thinking Lhance but haven't read a word of the last few pages

i think it's a different thread but you gotta salute that flag you're flying.

fight the real enemy

[Skew]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we dont like rotations. Not the majority of us. Is that a crime? How about not compete these two weeks if u guys rather go do stuff with family? Velious is here forever... Post on guild thread that u guys taking a vacation and no harm done. Doubt ppl would brag about uncontested pixels.

I did not vote because i am with my girls family right now, so i cannot play for the next 9 days. So i will not put weight in something that i will not participate. But there is people who will be online and would like to kill stuff... Should they not be allowed?

People live and play the game in different ways. Respect that and let the majority decides, when what they decide is not good for you/your guild, adjust. Dont try and make ppl look like assholes just because they disagree with you.

Play the game the way you want. Rotating stuff shouldnt be a fix to petition. Some ppl like to compete. Crazy right? Shrugs, thats their fun... Let them have it while they are still the majority.

Have fun with your family Skew, in the end thats what matters.

Absolutely correct , play as you sit fit. Just so long as the server and staff know who is driving the current raid environment (seems to be Awakened)
Downside is expect a lot more 20 day bans next year. Your guild will eventually tire of those i wager.
Merry Xmas and HNY anyway!

[skarlorn]

You're right woops

[xrend]

Originally Posted by Phenyo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• Doesnt have a level 60
• Doesnt raid

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Beautiful.

[Lhancelot]

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Beautiful.

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[Mead]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Henrique I'm not sure if you actually saw the fraps or if your leadership was spinning actual events again to make you guys look like the good guys. I don't doubt what your saying about Harbo accidently training the zone in but accidental or not you guys should of conceded. You brought it into camp, you actively kept it by zone in stairs and if anyone is responsible for the train it's Ceebus and primarily Diamondfist. Either you've been fed false information or you're just completely helpless.

https://youtu.be/A0gv-3C94hM

sweet 15 second clip