A/A Suspended 20 days...

[Tenderizer]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people A/A usually f#ck over are each other. You will notice the ban is for Awakened training Aftermath and for Aftermath interfering with a pull from Awakened.

Pretty sure they just looked at the mass of petitions and bs and said fuck it 20 days both and walked away like a boss.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Tenderizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure they just looked at the mass of petitions and bs and said fuck it 20 days both and walked away like a boss.

Next gonna be a 45 day ban I bet.

Shit is starting to hurt now, I think some serious introspection is needed for both guilds leadership.

Stop being dicks. it's not that hard.

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people A/A usually f#ck over are each other.

This. The real reason people on this server like to hate on the bogeymen 'A/A' is because they need someone to blame for their own inadequacies.To buy into the notion of A/A being the server 'bad guys' is just easier for most people than to accept the fact that the only thing stopping them is themselves. Its refreshing to see CSG managing to team up and down content without crying about how the servers rigged and how A/A stop them from competing, like A/A have any sort of power over the server other than being the competent groups.

Outside of the raid scene there are loads of people from both the guilds that are genuinely lovely people that ive enjoyed leveling and playing with. They play better and are usually more careful about how their actions effect other people because contrary to popular belief the guilds have a strict code of conduct and people are disciplined for shit that reflect poorly on the guilds. People from A/A have to be more careful because any misstep results in suspensions. In-game I'm more worried about random alts from lesser guilds training and shitting up my xp groupage because there are next to no repercussions for their actions.

[Baler]

Phenyo
Someone had to fill the void tmo and then bda left. A/A seems to be a good fit so far.
tmo -> bda -> A/A

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phenyo
Someone had to fill the void tmo and then bda left. A/A seems to be a good fit so far.
tmo -> bda -> A/A

While some of those crews may still exist on the server the dynamic is very different

[Tenderizer]

Originally Posted by Phenyo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While some of those crews may still exist on the server the dynamic is very different

Wrong, theres always a top dawg and atleast 1 rival. Been like this since launch will be like this forever. Top is where the focus is and people loose sight of everythimg else. Out of touch.

It all depends on how the top dogs want to treat end game. Want to keep getting bans, great! Everyone wull enjoy being nice to each other and all get mobs and enjoy the holiday.

Take the suspension like gentleman.

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I definitely agree Phenyo, A/A members are not likely to ninja loot or do some other equally sh!tty thing to you because they are time invested in the server (you cant get into either guild w/o being time invested in the server. IE level 58+, proper gear, ect)

The only thing I would disagree about is 'A/A doesn't stop other guilds from competing'. With the level of experience and coordination A/A has it really isn't fair to new players or guilds. That's why the R/C rotation was developed in Kunark, the staff realized there were 2 very separate and distinct levels of play on the server. This has not changed.

If your only solution to the inequity in nToV experience is 'git gud' then that's your opinion and it will likely never change. I think the staff keeps thinking that eventually A/A will burn out and dragons will not be kill IMMEDIATELY on spawn, but I think that's a pipe dream. Current raid scene is pretty shitty for anyone outside A/A I am sure.

While I would agree that there is inequality in the raid scene there's nothing stopping the other guilds putting in the same amount of time and effort. I don't think people appreciate how much dedication it takes from so many people to track and kill dragons. The game just wasn't designed with participation medals in mind, those that are willing to go that extra mile for their goals are rewarded (just like real life!) so 'git gud' is very much applicable. Yes, the level of experience possessed by the A/A crew may be greater but so is their effort. These guilds practice long and hard because they are just that immersed in being as good at dragon killing as they can be.

This suspension has given the other guilds on the server a great gift in that they have 2 earthquakes (maybe even 3?) and 20 days of usual respawns to learn and practice. Will they use this time to hone their raid forces and make effort to compete or will they take it as free loot and revert back to complaining about server bogey men when the suspensions are over. Hard to say but I know i'm putting my money on.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Phenyo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I would agree that there is inequality in the raid scene there's nothing stopping the other guilds putting in the same amount of time and effort. I don't think people appreciate how much dedication it takes from so many people to track and kill dragons. The game just wasn't designed with participation medals in mind, those that are willing to go that extra mile for their goals are rewarded (just like real life!) so 'git gud' is very much applicable. Yes, the level of experience possessed by the A/A crew may be greater but so is their effort. These guilds practice long and hard because they are just that immersed in being as good at dragon killing as they can be.

This suspension has given the other guilds on the server a great gift in that they have 2 earthquakes (maybe even 3?) and 20 days of usual respawns to learn and practice. Will they use this time to hone their raid forces and make effort to compete or will they take it as free loot and revert back to complaining about server bogey men when the suspensions are over. Hard to say but I know i'm putting my money on.

why is that level of effort/dedication necessary or good?

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why is that level of effort/dedication necessary or good?

cause that's just how life is, survival is all about being better than the competition and Whether or not we agree with it is arbitrary. A socialist norrath would never work (in my opinion) but it would be an amazing experiment to try.

[Phenyo]

momentary slip of character ITT, resuming calling people cucks henceforth