My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to add -- this is the problem with Race getting in the way of conversations about class. Why don't we just talk about how to help all people get their first house in a way that is fair to everyone? Instead -- got to talk about whites getting the edge on tax cuts. They are always going to get the edge on tax cuts -- "whites" (which I claim is getting to be more cultural than ethnic with my generation) will almost certainly always have more money because they started with more. Therefore, they get disproportionate benefit with any kind of tax break.

We can't let stupid talking point factoids get in the way of pushing for the one issue we ALL care about: Economic Inequality.

Zoning laws in blue cities and states raise the price of housing. See: san Francisco

Conversely, having no zoning creates dystopian nightmares like Houston's piss poor infrastructure

Give and take buddy, there's not really a solution to these complex problems

[mickmoranis]

https://youtu.be/mXntoTverSg

this video gets better and better and better as it goes on fyi

[Jimjam]

I'm just curious, for those who have worked in management positions, what are your experiences of males vs females in terms of them asking for raises?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kinda silly to talk about sides given the republicans can pass it without any democrat help.

remember this in april.

almost missed this 1

hella dunks

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zoning laws in blue cities and states raise the price of housing. See: san Francisco

Conversely, having no zoning creates dystopian nightmares like Houston's piss poor infrastructure

Give and take buddy, there's not really a solution to these complex problems

woke

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Give and take buddy, there's not really a solution to these complex problems

There are always solutions to every problem it's just a matter of having the ambition, will and money in many cases to do what it takes to solve the problem.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just curious, for those who have worked in management positions, what are your experiences of males vs females in terms of them asking for raises?

I didn't want to relay my own experience without others having a chance to share theirs first, but I never had a female employee ask me for a raise, whereas this was a pretty frequent thing among the guys that worked under me.

Men's magazines (from my stunted experience) occasionally run articles advising how to get a rise or promotion. As a guilty pleasure I will read ladies magazines (you know, if a friend or relative has one, if I'm in a waiting room at the surgery, or whatever). Those ladies magazines always seem to be about 'how to blow your man's mind in bed', but rarely address real women's issues, such as the paygap, and when they do, they don't go into the most obvious solution (ask employer for more money please).

[Rader]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't want to relay my own experience without others having a chance to share theirs first, but I never had a female employee ask me for a raise, whereas this was a pretty frequent thing among the guys that worked under me.

Men's magazines (from my stunted experience) occasionally run articles advising how to get a rise or promotion. As a guilty pleasure I will read ladies magazines (you know, if a friend or relative has one, if I'm in a waiting room at the surgery, or whatever). Those ladies magazines always seem to be about 'how to blow your man's mind in bed', but rarely address real women's issues, such as the paygap, and when they do, they don't go into the most obvious solution (ask employer for more money please).

Number one reason for the gender gap in pay-men desperately need money to attract women and get laid. Women actually may want to tone down their earnings, making too much money is not feminine and could make it harder to attract a man.

[JurisDictum]

Any woman that is naturally attractive is encouraged to focus on that before graduating highschool -- rather than developing skills. If your a hot blond 16 year old girl -- chances are you aren't going to be serious about your school work. A 16 year old boy is about x20 more likely not to have the same kind of temptation to go out partying and getting attention from the opposite sex every night.

So this puts a dent in a lot of STEM professions for women. Science is harder -- it's for people that try harder than Humanities students. There are exceptions (I think I was one) -- but most Humanity majors don't work nearly as hard as Science majors -- and we all know it. Women also don't want to look like "Computer Nerds" when their girls -- not sexy

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wanna point out that the Jews were slaves too. They went straight from slavery to wandering a desert for 40 years before pulling up their bootstraps and reclaiming their homeland. 600 years later they slew god. They were second class citizens beneath a pagan empire, but outmaneuvered their oppressors to WIN. all it took was a little effort, a fair amount of cunning and a whole lotta DESIRE.

what's your excuse?

#hardworkpays
#nomoreexcuses
#i<3katyperry

Your argument certainly seems to be "the jews were oppressed, but with some cunning, effort and desire they worked their way into not being opressed". You can claim the post "lacked any serious argument", but I think that's what most reasonable people would take away from it.

It also seems to me I read your post, understood it, and responded by explaining the Jewish history was far more complex then you made it out to be, and in fact the reason for their successful escape from oppression had nothing to do with their cunning or will, and everything to do with the historical accident of Christian law:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Jews are a very interesting case, because they're different even from other "model minorities" (eg. Japanese and Korean immigrants). What makes the Jews special is, ironically, laws created by Christians. Christians weren't allowed to lend money, and Jews weren't allowed to own land, so these Christian laws all but forced Jews to go into banking, money-lending, and mercantilism. It turns out that being involved with money while everyone around you isn't is kind of good for accumulating money, and when you apply that over hundreds and hundreds of years you get their out-sized influence (which is not to say that a secret cabal of Jews runs the world, just that on average in many countries a Jew will have more money/influence than the average non-Jewish citizen).

Contrast that with people who literally owned nothing less than 200 years ago, had no such laws benefiting them (ironically, although those laws were meant to hurt the Jews, they wound up being helpful) and I think it becomes a lot clearer how one "former slave group" could be vastly more successful than another former slave group (and that's not even accounting for the wealth of other factors that separate Jews from blacks).

To which you attack me with:

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what I'm talking about ;n; You don't even read the post before responding with unrelated information associated tangentially with one of the words you find most compelling.

You saw "jews," assumed I was making a comparison between contemporary populations and responded with information on that topic. had you read the rest of the post, you would realize it lacked any serious argument. you need to slow down, stop attempting to infer motives and listen to the question. It is evident you know a lot ^^ stop being so eager to simply share what you know and you'll find it will serve you better. or continue to troll ^^

So we're having a whole conversation about race and disparities, but because your mentioning of the Jews' involvement in the passion of Christ was flippant ("slew God"), and because you threw a hashtag Katy Perry joke at the end I should just ignore the argument in everything else you wrote, which pretty clearly was that the Jews pulled themselves up by their bootstrap, and what ... respond to the Katy Perry hashtag? And because I didn't I'm a troll?

I'm done doing this with you, you're almost as bad as Mick. The posts above speak for themselves: I'll let everyone else decide whether I'm some troll who just spouts out unrelated information or whether I was trying to have an honest discussion and making arguments with supporting information.