My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So once again ... do either of you actually know even a single person who identifies as a feminist, let alone multiple people active in the movement? Or are you basing all this on your imaginary preconceptions of who feminists (that you've never met) are?

I am a feminist, but I am by no means a modern one. I believe women reached equality in the 1980s.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

imaginary preconceptions of who feminists (that you've never met) are?

1. talented artists are being blacklisted right now, so you cant say its a "you havent met them".. these feminists are literally taking away my freedom right now to enjoy art because of puritanical nonsense.
2. you're the one trying to tell me that's not what they are about.

YOU are the only one basing your reality on the belief that people think the way you do, that you haven't met.

Im basing mine on actions.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just honestly think white and white-acting women are basically fine in America now. At least from a policy directional standpoint.

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am a feminist, but I am by no means a modern one. I believe women reached equality in the 1980s.

It's always easiest to deny privilege when you're the one benefiting from it. Like white people don't have privilege ... they just don't have to worry about being framed or beat up when they get pulled over ... but that's not privilege.

In this case it comes down to a single question (I mean actually a lot more, but this one is the easiest/simplest): have you been raped in your life? No? Might it have something to do with your 1/2 (actually a lot less than that, but I don't want to argue over rape stats) chance of being raped?

I guess if being raped is no big deal then yeah, women are totally equal to men in our society.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's always easiest to deny privilege when you're the one benefiting from it. Like white people don't have privilege ... they just don't have to worry about being framed or beat up when they get pulled over ... but that's not privelege.

Have you been raped in your life? No? Might have something to do with your 1/2 (actually a lot less than that, but I don't want to argue over rape stats) chance.

But I guess if being raped is no big deal then yeah, women are totally equal to men in our society.

yes I have been raped.

once by a man and once by a fat woman while I was blacked out and woke up with her on top of me.

[loramin]

Wow Mick, I am truly and sincerely sorry to hear that. The point I wanted to make was that one group of people having a far higher risk of violence than another group makes that first group unequal ... but I never meant in any way to trivialize male rape, and I hope I haven't done so with any of my posts.

I also hope you were able to get the help you needed afterwards, and if not I hope you seek it out someday. Those kind of experiences can be damaging in many unexpected ways.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So once again ... do either of you actually know even a single person who identifies as a feminist, let alone multiple people active in the movement? Or are you basing all this on your imaginary preconceptions of who feminists (that you've never met) are?

Obviously some of their ideology is formed by the sources they choose to read or watch which probably only depict the most extreme "feminists."

[Rader]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes I have been raped.

once by a man and once by a fat woman while I was blacked out and woke up with her on top of me.

"Falling" onto phallic-shaped objects isn't actually rape.

[mickmoranis]

I was never able to get any of the help I needed because being raped as a man is a fucking joke and nobody wants to hear it, the one person I told when I was a kid defrended me IRL because it was too much for her to handle.

its bullshit.

Life is rediculously hard and if you go around feeling like you desrve simpathy for the same shit that everyone goes around suffering from then start swinging your perverbial dick by assuming that everyone has it GOOD if theyre white or a man, then all you're doing is announcing

"IM A HUGE RETARD HEAR ME AND LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY"

it is by no means more difficult to live on earth as a man or a women so longa s you are born in a western civilized country.

Now, born in a muslim one that libs love to protect and guess again.

But the moral of the story.

In work, pay, social hiarchy, in every single facet of life man and women are created equally: the strong prey on the weak and thats it period.

The strong does not care if you are a man or a woman. Only if you are weak and will accept the lowest offer.

Hell I turned down buying a car 3 days ago cus they couldnt match my price.

I got a phone call today that they would do it.

Why? Cus I didnt really want the car, so I said no to their bottom line offer.

If you really want the job? Youre gonna get payed less.

Man

or woman.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So once again ... do either of you actually know even a single person who identifies as a feminist, let alone multiple people active in the movement? Or are you basing all this on your imaginary preconceptions of who feminists (that you've never met) are?

So I read that and thought to myself "no bullshit -- who do you know that identifies as feminist." Besides some wealthy lesbians in California I don't know too well, probably my older brother's wife. That's it out of all socialists/leftists I know well. None of the others want that label. It was only at college I ever found a lot of identification with that label.

This is a quick recap of my brother's wife:

Worked at Burger Restaurant (supposedly wanted to be a Message Therapist) -- hooked up with my brother who was outwardly claiming to be looking for nothing serious and just wanting to have fun. My brother is no player though so he ended up attached to her. Nice score for the Red Robbin girl -- my brother has a trust fund and a business.

Marries him quits her job has two kids*. When she is not busy bitching about how overwhelmed she is being a mom -- She will go on Facebook and write posts in support of black lives matter, feminism etc.

Lots of selfies and pictures with her and her kids on vacations and wearing nice cloths...and some stuff about feminism and the pay gap patriarchy etc...

She is a real bitch to my brother's ex-wife who doesn't have a trust fund husband anymore. Lots of rumor-mongering about how dysfunctional she is and mentally ill.

So that's it -- that's the "feminist" I know. She probably has the same bullshit "I support equality" minimalist definition you do. Even though this is highly misleading and implies there are significant numbers of people that disagree with equality.

My mom was a single mother of 2 from a poor background that got a professional degree sometime in the 80s -- she doesn't identify as a feminist...I'm guessing because she had real problems.

*even though my brother already had 2 and was upfront day 1 about not wanting more

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you really want the job? Youre gonna get payed less.

Man

or woman.

Why do women get paid less across the board than men if things are equal between the sexes? I should clarify this better, why are women not offered the same higher paying jobs as men? This is just one clear stat that no one can dispute. Men are paid more than women and are offered higher paid jobs period. Why is this? Because women want the job more, so they get paid less? To think the world in America is equal for men and women you'd have to be delusional or crazy, or just in denial.