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Old 11-22-2017, 10:26 PM
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ok first of all its 1 out of ever 6 females will be raped in their life
Rape is a notoriously under-reported crime: very few mugging victims feel huge amounts of guilt, but a great deal of rape victims do. If you go by police reports you get a very different answer than when you survey women, and even then because different people define rape differently (see my previous post), and even differently at different times in their life, the answers you get will depend heavily on how you phrase the questions and other factors. Also the quality of studies varies wildly, and because rape is a politicized issue many people have both conscious and unconscious biases that impact the a vested interest in affecting the statistics.

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A 2013 study found that rape may be grossly underreported in the United States.[2] Furthermore, a 2014 study suggested that police departments may eliminate or undercount rapes from official records in part to "create the illusion of success in fighting violent crime".[3]
So there's nothing wrong with the 1 in 6 RAIN number you quoted (originally from the 1998 Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey, from the NIJ & CDC), but if you look at other studies, including some older but higher quality ones, you get the 1 in 4 or even 1 in 3 I mentioned.

Ultimately though whether it's 1 in 6 women or 1 in 3, it's still something women suffer disproportionately from. And here's one last statistic: 99% (and likely 99.9%) of all rapists are male.

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HOWEVER you leave out, that white women, the ones that we're fighting for, get raped a lot less than the minorities they are not helping by fixing Hollywood working environments [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] it is all bullshit my men.
We're 100% in agreement: minorities suffer more rape than whites.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:34 PM
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I don't have supporting stats here but I bet people who flash jewels in the street while looking very vulnerable get robbed more than stinky hobos with gnarled hands.
This is stereotypical blame the victim thinking. Look even if I was wearing jewlery in a bad part of town that does not mean I deserve to be mugged, and there are no conditions where anyone (except maybe a rapist) deserves to be raped.

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The increased incidence of rape correlates directly to the differential in economic power women benefit from merely by existing in reasonably good health.
They've studied this, and as far as stranger rape goes it's simply not true. Rapists don't target by wealth or attractiveness (surprisingly). Want to know what they do target?

They did a study where they took like 100 women's photos and gave them to a bunch of rapists in prison, asking them to pick out which ones they'd go after. They found that all of them tended to target the same set of women, and that was the set of women who did not look assertive. They went after the ones who wouldn't make eye contact and had similar weak body language, irrespective of race, attractiveness, etc.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:41 PM
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They went after the ones who wouldn't make eye contact and had similar weak body language, irrespective of race, attractiveness, etc.
re my what society thinks is attractive correlation. Increased risk by fitting the statistically desired mold.
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:48 PM
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This is stereotypical blame the victim thinking. Look even if I was wearing jewlery in a bad part of town that does not mean I deserve to be mugged, and there are no conditions where anyone (except maybe a rapist) deserves to be raped.
If you have fancy jewelry to wear you're probably doing fine economically. This was my only point and I'm glad we agree that the wealth of femininity can be abstracted to material goods.

Violent crime is also bad I agree!
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This is stereotypical blame the victim thinking. Look even if I was wearing jewlery in a bad part of town that does not mean I deserve to be mugged, and there are no conditions where anyone (except maybe a rapist) deserves to be raped.



They've studied this, and as far as stranger rape goes it's simply not true. Rapists don't target by wealth or attractiveness (surprisingly). Want to know what they do target?

They did a study where they took like 100 women's photos and gave them to a bunch of rapists in prison, asking them to pick out which ones they'd go after. They found that all of them tended to target the same set of women, and that was the set of women who did not look assertive. They went after the ones who wouldn't make eye contact and had similar weak body language, irrespective of race, attractiveness, etc.
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Old 11-23-2017, 02:31 AM
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Illuminating. Listening to a bunch of lower class mysoginistic video game addicts discuss feminism is like like watching a monkey do a math problem.
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Old 11-23-2017, 02:35 AM
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1/3rd-1/4th of all women (millennial or otherwise) will be raped in their life, whereas for men it's something like 1/10th: how is getting raped a lot more an advantage?
It's the current year. Why are you nerds still discussing feminism? An why are you peddling stats from self-selected surveys where "I was drunk, got cum in my eye, and didn't like it" is categorized as rape?

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf . Randomly surveyed, 3 in 1k per year, college-aged women raped. 6 in 1k, sexually assaulted. (numbers lower for women enrolled in college)

Worst part about feminism is male feminists who trivialize rape by conflating it with drunk sex and healthy college life.
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