My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[Pokesan]

guys we're equal, but we should totally steal their children

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i didn't suggest that. the point I was attempting to make was a very simple one: if you believe blacks are hobbled by discrimination, do everything you can to remove discrimination. does that make sense?

The way that you suggested one could "do everything ... to remove discrimination" was to adopt African-American children . I strongly disagree that adopting other culture's children is a valid strategy to "better" that culture, and as I pointed out historically that approach has never helped solve discrimination. In fact, quite to the contrary, it has a very ugly and racist history behind it.

... but I do agree that, as long as you don't push failed racist policies as a way to combat racism, your larger point that people should speak less and do more is totally valid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was running with the idea of a bad relationship instead of literally suggesting asking for food is abuse, although I'm sure it could be if you're super mean about it. Not really into this conversation anymore, but I just wanted to say thank you for your sacrifice (lol). It's a shame not cheating on your partner and raising your kids is some kind of virtue these days instead of normal behavior.

It's a huge sacrifice I just want to play EQ all day

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my bowl cut detector is going nuts

LOL hahahaha

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) People on reality TV shows don't whip their dick out.

B) Consent matters: LCK whipped his dick out and started masturbating (something deeply disturbing to watch) in front of women who had absolutely no desire to see such a thing. The worst non-consensual thing people in reality shows do is throw water in each other's faces

C) When reality TV did have a non-consensual "moment" (eg. that Bachelor hot tub drama not too long ago) they nearly shut the whole show down, and if it had been more clear cut they probably would have.

A) he asked consent got it, then said OK when he didnt. So what more do you want?
B) this is false.
C) A show about 100 women pleasing a man, is far more supportive of the patriarchy than what one guy who defends social justice in his comedy does in his bedroom with people he has no power over other than their love of what he personally creates, comedy.

I Just want you to see what type of bullshit you are being fed that makes you missunderstand what actually happened in the bedrooms of other people (to illstrate point B)

In a statement released on Friday, the comedian tried to explain why he’d exposed his penis and masturbated in front of several nonconsenting women over a period of several years. “At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first,” he wrote, claiming he never learned until it was “too late” that power differentials could make those women feel overpowered or coerced.

here you see the same libcuckery where they say it was nonconsenting in teh same sentence where they say he always asked for consent.

Gimi a fuckn break. This shit is hilarious, you are being played hard by 35 year old female cucks who cant have babies anymore cus they spent too much of their youth being fat and blaming men for their problems.

[Lulz~Sect]

hell must be freezing over

i am in moderate agreement with mick

[loramin]

Originally Posted by http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/11/10/louis_c_k_s_masturbation_statement_unnervingly_mis understands_the_concept.html

Perhaps he did ask each woman if he could take out his penis before he showed it to them, but he doesn’t say they said yes, because many didn’t.

Asking someone if you can take out your penis—especially if that person is a co-worker, and especially if she has shown absolutely no sexual interest in you, like if she’s just walked into your room with her winter coat and a friend—will often be enough to make her feel threatened. (For C.K., that was probably part of the thrill.)

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

guys we're equal, but we should totally steal their children

TOTALLY

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way that you suggested one could "do everything ... to remove discrimination" was to adopt African-American children .

one way ^^ and it is the most achievable way for any person to exercise maximal control over the environment for another. it is the most efficient means of eradicating discrimination from an environment for another person. any other arrangement would require more resources for the same or more likely less return.

I strongly disagree that adopting other culture's children is a valid strategy to "better" that culture,

i never argued this ^^ i offered a way to eliminate discrimination for a person. That's it. im sure there are other ways.

how would you suggest an individual could single-handedly achieve the greatest reduction in discrimination for another individual in a free society?

i'll join you in discussing culture once we can put this concept to bed ^^

and as I pointed out historically that approach has never helped solve discrimination. In fact, quite to the contrary, it has a very ugly and racist history behind it.

hold on now ^^

1. you said we did those things to "end their problems (as savages)," not to end discrimination. there is a difference.

2. you were there (and still appear to be) arguing that:

a: abduction of children from families and attempts to "civilize" them

is the same as

b: adopting a child from an orphanage or foster home to provide a positive environment free of discrimination.


how is that the same? Do you think it is better to leave children in orphanages or rotating foster homes? I don't think you do, so what is your issue with adoption?

... but I do agree that, as long as you don't push failed racist policies as a way to combat racism, your larger point that people should speak less and do more is totally valid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*high-five*

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps he did ask each woman if he could take out his penis before he showed it to them, but he doesn’t say they said yes, because many didn’t.

Asking someone if you can take out your penis—especially if that person is a co-worker, and especially if she has shown absolutely no sexual interest in you, like if she’s just walked into your room with her winter coat and a friend—will often be enough to make her feel threatened. (For C.K., that was probably part of the thrill.)

this is all fake news. First "many" there are only 5 women that have come out and all of them gave him consent.

second none of them were co workers they were going to his room and he was flirting with them, that's why they went there.

third he did NOT show his privates to anyone who didnt say yes. What part of GETTING CONSENT is the problem here? GET CONSENT, STILL LOSE YOUR JOB?!?! what the hell is the matter with libtards these days?!

If they went there, thinking they could promote their carrier by asking for his help, or if they felt that if they said no to him, he would actively try to destroy their carrier, that is ALL on them. First they shouldn't be hanging out with someone only to further their own professional interests. Second if they think he 'might' harm their carrier by saying no, they didnt give him the opportunity to not do that, so its a fantasy they are creating. and third, they were all hanging out with him at comedy clubs and drinking and flirting afterhours so its a perfectly find place for someone to engage in flirtatious sexual activity by ASKING FOR CONSENT.

What you are saying is that if someone has the same carrier as you, you cannot partake in any sexual discussion without certified legal written consent.

Its absurd.

Lor, please stop reading and regurgitating fake lies about someone while you continue to shame them for things they didnt do that the lies convinced you he did.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. you were there (and still appear to be) arguing that:

a: abduction of children from families and attempts to "civilize" them

is the same as

b: adopting a child from an orphanage or foster home to provide a positive environment free of discrimination.

Individual adoption of kids of any ethnicity is (obviously) a good thing. But if we're talking about fighting discrimination we're not talking about individual adoptions; by definition we have to be talking about mass adoption, because no one thinks adopting a single minority kid will solve anything. And as I said before, large scale adoptions to integrate minorities into society (which is what we're talking about in both the Native-American and African-American cases) has an ugly and racist history.

But there's also a larger issue to the whole thing, and that's the assumption that the problem is the minorities. If we could only adopt and teach these black children to act like white children then the problem would be solved! Except a black adopted child is going to face the exact same discrimination for the color of their skin as a white child (only they'll have the added awkwardness of parents who don't share that with them).

So if mass (or individual) adoptions won't fight racism ...

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how would you suggest an individual could single-handedly achieve the greatest reduction in discrimination for another individual in a free society?

How about writing a book, movie, or TV show where the black (or any minority) character is not defined by their race? Like where a main character is black, but they're not The Black Panther, they're not the villain in Luke Cage, there's just a person who happens to be black. Or where the hot dog vendor, x-ray technician, or whatever side role is black, and their race is completely irrelevant (eg. it's not in a crime show set in Baltimore).

Or write one where the African-American character is a criminal, but the viewer empathizes with their actions and see them as a result of their circumstances (the way you do with, for instance, the main character in Slumdog Millionaire) rather than as a consequence of their skin color.

Or how about making a commercial where the black kid isn't just the "token black kid", they actually have a central role which has nothing to do with being "urban" or black?

Or what about fighting racist in the courts? On average blacks are convicted and given longer sentences than white people (for equal crimes). An individual lawyer or judge could make a huge impact not just in their own courtroom, but by convincing their peers to confront their latent racism and how it impacts their legal decisions.

Or if you're a cop, fighting back against the stereotypes within your fellow law enforcement officers that blacks are dangerous criminals and/or deserve less rights.

Or if you work for a pharmaceutical company make band-aids for all skin colors, not just "white".

Or if ...

I could go on but hopefully you get the point: the solution to solving racism isn't to adopt kids who will just face that racism (along with the awkwardness of having parents who don't), it's to influence your fellow humans to not be racist.