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Old 11-06-2017, 11:26 AM
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:22 PM
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EDIT: Oh and I'm sorry I'm remiss to mention I posted because the wiki leads me to believe the corpse rods only drop in befallen and only sell in W Karana or Thurgadin:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Chipped_Bone_Rod

Based on the Allah link and my own memories, I beg to differ?
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Ok. Update. I looked up "www.everlore.com" on the internet archive. I used to go there.

Here's a snapshot for May 12 2001. However, the comments below are from 1999:
Two possibilities here: the wiki is wrong or the game is wrong. I tend to blame the wiki first: if I were you I'd head to one of the places that is supposed to have the rod (but isn't mentioned in the wiki) and see if it's sold there. If so feel free to correct the wiki because ... well, it's a wiki.

If the rod isn't in-game I'd make a new post to the Bugs forum with the evidence you've collected.
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:10 PM
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Loramin, I haven't collected enough convincing evidence the rods were sold by default. I'm confident the people running this server have good reason to put rods on merchants in W Karana and Thurgadin. Right now, the comments are alluding to possible rods being sold in Kelethin, Erudin, Qeynos and maybe a few other cities, maybe all near the bank. Why near the bank? I've tried to find more comments in the internet archive, but so far the well is dry.

On p1999, I checked some of the merchants behind the bank in Qeynos and saw no chipped bone rods. I suspect the wiki is accurate and they're only sold in W Karana and Thurgadin.

You said there're two possibilities: the wiki is wrong or the game is wrong. The wiki is probably not wrong. And the game doesn't have to be wrong if the wiki is right. The third possibility is the comments I've read were incorrect about the items being sold by default. They were sold to the merchants and the players erroneously concluded it was sold by default.

I will continue to pursue this.
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:16 PM
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From what I recall they were on limited merchants at release and additional ones at some future time.
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:20 PM
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No, they used to be sold from multiple poison/herb vendors, the ones that also sell the cloudy potions, etc. I also noticed that 'only in Thurgadin' wasn't correct for the era as far as I can remember, they should be available elsewhere as real inventory rather than sold by players.
Do you mean "only in Thurgadin and West Karana"?

Regarding the merchant type, at least in Qeynos, it seems this might be true. I haven't checked Erudin or Kelethin yet to see if those references are linked to herb or potion sellers.

I imagine hte answer is out there, but it has to be found painfully dug up.
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:00 PM
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I just camped Befallen for a Marnek Dag; I remember looting a few of them there.
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Right, but we are arguing that that is not correct.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:48 PM
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it is possible to replace the sense heading training trick with a macro for /loc and then make a tiny window that displays similar messages. that way you always have your loc on death, as long as you hit walk forward sometime around the time you died (which is fairly reliable).
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:21 AM
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I'm new to this and oft clumsy. Please forgive any stupidity on my part.

Here's the link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010427...h.shtml?id=600

Aright, here's the deal, I've been looking at the internet archive records for "everquest.allakhazam.com" and I've been scratching off possible evidence once after the other, since almost all the NPCs only show chipped bone rods being sold Nov 2002 and after. I made the mistake of looking at the "items sold" perhaps too frequently, since I may have missed a couple of the images. And here's the rub, I was about to leave because Sharin Denuen didn't have a items sold list in the snapshots, but then I looked at the image. I realized it probably showed a chipped bone rod. So I thought, wait how old is this image? So I brought up the earliest snapshot. Guess what? It's Apr 27 2001.

What's so special about this image? First, it existed at least Apr 27 2001. Second, it clearly shows Sharin Denuen. It looks like a legit screenshot. And from what I understand, the old client shows the DEFAULT items first--topdown. There's a wand-looking item in the 4th position, and it's showing potions with greater positions, meaning it's probably a default item. From what I gather, that wand-looking thing is probably a chipped bone rod.

Here's the image of the chipped bone rod. It looks the same:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3616

One more thing. The image caption on the new Sharin Denuen page says "Uploaded July 24th, 2007", but this is probably because the address for the page AND the image changed--I confirmed this. The snapshot shows this image existed in 2001 on a different domain. When the addresses changed, they re-uploaded the image to the new page and the date was inserted.

That's the best evidence I have so far, I think, if I haven't missed anything.

Here's the roughdraft list of NPCs I've collected:
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Merchants listed as having Chipped Bone Rod on modern Allakhazam:
(confirmed) = on p1999
Alchemy = potions and few components (Mistletoe, Sandalwood, Dufrenite )
Alchemy Supplies = potions and many/some components
Date = the last recorded archive link when chipped bone rod is present

Ak'Anon
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - a clockwork alchemist (891, -301; lower level of tower on lake near palace)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021106...ch.shtml?id=72
Erudin Palace
(confirmed pre-luclin) Apr 2001(!?) - Alchemy Supplies - Sharin Denuen (661, 539; bottom floor of palace)
https://web.archive.org/web/20010427...h.shtml?id=600
Firiona Vie
Alchemy - Shrub Marwood (956, -3323)
Kelethin/Greater Faydark:
(confirmed pre-luclin) Alchemy Supplies - Merchant Kaeluase (-272, 51)
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - Merchant Ueaas (-85, 601; near bank)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021116....shtml?id=1264
Halas
(confirmed pre-luclin) Aug 2006 - Alchemy Supplies - Murtog MacYee (124, -364; Yee Majik shop)
https://web.archive.org/web/20060830....shtml?id=1469
Neriak Commons
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - Marza T'Kix (Neriak Down Under)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021118....shtml?id=2296
Neriak - Foreign Quarter
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - Gambel Quick (253, -60; Gambels' Greens)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021116....shtml?id=2221
Paineel
(possible seller in a shop called Poison Petal)
Rivervale
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - Kizzie Mintopp (-229, -217)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021118....shtml?id=3169
(confirmed pre-luclin) Apr 2005 - Alchemy - Byl Babbinsbort (-146, -114; near Misty exit)
https://web.archive.org/web/20050404....shtml?id=3162
(confirmed pre-luclin) Alchemy - Bimble Babbinsbort (-162, -118)
South Kaladim
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - Baldoleky Rockfinder (254, -186)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021116....shtml?id=1765
South Qeynos
(confirmed) Nov 2002 - Alchemy/Spells - Caleah Herblender (Herb store by bank)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021118....shtml?id=2804
(confirmed) Sep 2003 - Alchemy Supplies - Drawna Opimsor (Herb store by bank)
https://web.archive.org/web/20030914....shtml?id=2801
Nov 2002 - Alchemy/Spells - Khensol Undesta (Caster's guild: 288, -623)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021118....shtml?id=2828
Southern Felwithe
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2002 - Alchemy Supplies - Merchant Yisasan (440, -800)
https://web.archive.org/web/20021118...h.shtml?id=841
Thurgadin
Alchemy Supplies - Frundle Frenkler (-390, 505; next to The Holy Harbinger)
West Cabilis
Alchemy - Jondin (-36, 508)
West Freeport
(confirmed pre-luclin) Nov 2006 - Alchemy Supplies - Olyna Mudel (255, -1847; Torlig's Herbs and Medicines)
https://web.archive.org/web/20061103....shtml?id=1161
(confirmed pre-luclin) Mar 2007 - Alchemy Supplies - Torlig Mudel (265, -1837; Torlig's Herbs and Medicines)
https://web.archive.org/web/20070319....shtml?id=1166
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