Venril Sathir Faction

[Sorn]

Originally Posted by Pindrought [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm wanting to be able to use the vendors for recharging.

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Don't do it!

[Pindrought]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then you will be paying more than double the cost of recharge (sell for 50% less, buy for double), and it's entirely possible you won't find an empty one. This honestly just sounds like a lot of work for something that's going to be detrimental to you. Can't you just bardspeed run to FV?

The recharge cost is not an issue. The waste of time running to FV would be an issue in my case.

Thanks everyone for the input.

[GinnasP99]

Don't bards get the sneak skill ?

[darkreap]

I can testify an agnostic dark elf bard with max kos faction can vendor with faction song using only wooden flute. Might need to sneak to vendor but they won't attack

[Zekayy]

Kill Kunark Dragons other than that theres no way other than vp

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Pindrought [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes i'm using a wind instrument it still only takes me up one level. I had another Wood Elf bard test it with the dark elf mask and he said they were still scowling. What is your deity?

Edited to add:
I'm not trying to get faction to bank as you don't need faction to bank. I'm trying to get faction to use the vendors.

Scowling is a very deep faction level. The negative modifier for woodelf (and positive for dark elf?) could be fairly substantial yet still not be enough to take you out of scowl if you are really deep KOS.

I suggest giving the mask a go for yourself; the bard you spoke to may not have been agnostic, or may have done some hunting that made their KoS deeper than yours.

If you are threatening with faction song I suspect switching race could be enough to push you out of threatening. Threatening isn't such a wide band of faction!

If you just want to vendor, invis somewhere safe(ish), activate sneak behind a merchant (you can tell it works without needing to con if you wait 12 seconds; if it is still blocked out it worked.... or I you move slower it worked) then do that.

You'll get a better price with sneak (indif) than anon dark elf bard with faction song (app default).

What are you planning to recharge if the cost is a non issue? The OT vendors charge premium prices and pay a pittance. If they are fairly expensive items you might want to consider using a vendor close to a shaman port potion then OT hammer back??

Sneak hand ins with Berzerker Braids can up your faction too. To give you an idea of the faction gained per turn in: it takes about 120 to get from Apprehensive to amiably.

[Pindrought]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Scowling is a very deep faction level. The negative modifier for woodelf (and positive for dark elf?) could be fairly substantial yet still not be enough to take you out of scowl if you are really deep KOS.

I suggest giving the mask a go for yourself; the bard you spoke to may not have been agnostic, or may have done some hunting that made their KoS deeper than yours.

If you are threatening with faction song I suspect switching race could be enough to push you out of threatening. Threatening isn't such a wide band of faction!

If you just want to vendor, invis somewhere safe(ish), activate sneak behind a merchant (you can tell it works without needing to con if you wait 12 seconds; if it is still blocked out it worked.... or I you move slower it worked) then do that.

You'll get a better price with sneak (indif) than anon dark elf bard with faction song (app default).

What are you planning to recharge if the cost is a non issue? The OT vendors charge premium prices and pay a pittance. If they are fairly expensive items you might want to consider using a vendor close to a shaman port potion then OT hammer back??

Sneak hand ins with Berzerker Braids can up your faction too. To give you an idea of the faction gained per turn in: it takes about 120 to get from Apprehensive to amiably.

Good advice. I ended up farming the mask and since i'm agnostic it did indeed work!

I was doing sneak turn ins, but due to the way that the captain/marines are positioned it was tricky. For anyone interested in how I was doing it, here is a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo2eSeijJbE