Are you leveling up outside of EQ? (fitness thread)

[Jimjam]

Work them less hard, do stretches and be patient would be the kindest way I imagine, though I sense you want advice more technical and with quicker results than that?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thank you all for all the suggestions :3 i don't really need to lose weight though. im not fat, i specifically wanna lose some lean body mass. I know you can't do targeted fat loss since you body gonna draw energy from wherever it want to, but it seem to me that targeted muscle loss is a very achievable goal, since muscle use result in damage to the tissue.

my thought is, if I don't eat enough protein, it gonna break the muscle down and it won't have enough to rebuild or grow because it gonna prioritize things liek organs and stuff over skeletal muscles. of course I guess there the chance that depriving the tissue of proteins when I break it down like that maybe gimme all sorts adhesions or something, but I think the stretching maybe help with that. i also am somewhat concerned about what a protein deficit due to my skin. maybe if I just make sure to maintain a healthy collagen intake (like chicken skins), I be good? your body wont synthesize other proteins from collagen will it?

in any case, I plan to maintain a healthy caloric intake of mostly carbs and fats alongside my regular multivitamin and other supplements.

I was thinking for a routine I do something liek increasing reps with medium weights daily for several weeks with no rest day. liek maybe I do:

3x15 lateral raise 5lb
3x15 front fly 10lb
3x15 curl 10lb
3x15 oh tri 5lb

and then add 5 reps each day until I reaching exhaustion and start failing to complete sets and then maintain that maybe doing morning and night.

do you think a caloric deficit is needed for muscle loss? im not really interested in losing fat right now, liek I said I am pretty happy with my overall shape/texture. obviously caloric deficit is needed for fat loss, because your body will store all excess as fat and fat is your fuel once you deplete glycogen, but muscle is different. using it damages it and it NEED protein to repair. we not liek cows or gorillas who can synthesize proteins from grass. i think I should be able to maintain a normal caloric intake whiled doing this.

any ideas on how to just diminish daily muscle glycogen stores? liek, so I just store less? obviously less muscle do that and so do inactivity, but happy to hear other suggestions!

it also make me wonder if doing this in a protein deficit will make my body prioritize the damaged muscle and breakdown other larger muscle groups to repair it o.o that would suck. our bodies aren't that stupid are they?

Ok, for one it's hard to lose muscle "healthily", really the only way would be to simply not exercise, perhaps eat properly and swim, do cardio. Over time, you would lose muscle but you would also lose fat as cardio naturally burns fat.

Perhaps if you simply did high rep volume muscle exercises, which would tone your muscles but at the same time burn fat, you'd lose "bulkiness" or larger muscle mass this way though. High rep volumes is 20+ reps or more imo. When you doing 10-15 reps on an exercise that would be done to build muscle that is not a high rep volume amount.

Aldo body squats and other exercises that incorporate multiple muscle groups at one time burn calories and fat efficiently over your entire body as well as strengthen your core effectively.

[khysanth]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Running sucks and is inefficient

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/w...your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by khysanth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/w...your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

I think it was also due in part that our sweat ran down or entire body to help us cool. Also, keep in mind in the modern day we are often running on concrete and on shoes that may or may not be helping us. For instance there is done south American or central American culture that runs hundreds of miles in little more than a flimsy sandal.

I believe they analyzed how they ran and found they were placing the front part of their foot down first or maybe landing more flat footed, which caused less stress and resistance in their stride.

So current running techniques in USA may not be as efficient and can be damaging to our bodies in the long term

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by khysanth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/w...your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

Yes it's natural but has a base impact into our spine that can create injuries. Along with our feet running really taxes us compared to an elliptical or bike...I won't say you're wrong .. just from an orthopaedic stand point there is better activities.

[maskedmelonpai]

there lotta energy wasted in secondary and tertiary stabilization a when running. that what i think he was referring to. something liek rowing or cycling translates more of you into productive work. of course, that not matter so much though if you not going anywhere or trying to actually do something beyond conditioning you body.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Work them less hard, do stretches and be patient would be the kindest way I imagine, though I sense you want advice more technical and with quicker results than that?

guess i just looking for a active solution, something beyond just waitin for atrophy, which given normal diet and light use been minimal. i been at it a while.. :/ i know it possible to get weaker from overworking a muscle and not nourishing it proper. that why I thought maybe this work to shrink it too ^^

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, for one it's hard to lose muscle "healthily", really the only way would be to simply not exercise, perhaps eat properly and swim, do cardio. Over time, you would lose muscle but you would also lose fat as cardio naturally burns fat.

Perhaps if you simply did high rep volume muscle exercises, which would tone your muscles but at the same time burn fat, you'd lose "bulkiness" or larger muscle mass this way though. High rep volumes is 20+ reps or more imo. When you doing 10-15 reps on an exercise that would be done to build muscle that is not a high rep volume amount.

Aldo body squats and other exercises that incorporate multiple muscle groups at one time burn calories and fat efficiently over your entire body as well as strengthen your core effectively.

yeah, i dont really think targeted muscle shrinking is 'healthy', but since targeted fat reduction is not a thing, it really the only solution since I happy with my fat content elsewhere. don't have a lotta shoulder fat anyway.

Originally Posted by Caiu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

more meth

i liek having teeth and skin that doesnt look liek a dessicated lizard scrotum, so im gonna stay away from the meth for now. ty, though :3

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe they analyzed how they ran and found they were placing the front part of their foot down first or maybe landing more flat footed, which caused less stress and resistance in their stride.

So current running techniques in USA may not be as efficient and can be damaging to our bodies in the long term

Honestly, if you aren't toe-heel stepping like a drow your tech is seriously whack.

From R.A. Salvatore's Siege of Darkness

Like Drizzt's, Catti-brie's boots were thin and well worn but, to the drow's sharp ears, few humans, even so attired, could move so silently. Drizzt subtly eyed her in the dim, flickering light of the widely spaced torches. He noted that she was stepping like a drow, the ball of her foot touching down first, instead of the more common human heel-toe method. Her time in the Underdark, chasing Drizzt to Menzoberranzan, had served her well.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not. Leaning towards troll though.

I don't think anyone is going to give you credible advice on how to achieve this. Again, file this under learning about the body, dieting, and weightlifting/loss for yourself and then use that knowledge to reach your goal - whatever that goal may be.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think anyone is going to give you credible advice on how to achieve this. Again, file this under learning about the body, dieting, and weightlifting/loss for yourself and then use that knowledge to reach your goal - whatever that goal may be.

Sorry Mead - meant to quote Maskedmelonpal

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by khysanth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/w...your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

Didn't read the article yet, but I would place more emphasis on our ability to communicate lending to our ability to "outlast" over running.

But side note - running is overwhelming stressful on the body and the caloric expedited from it is inefficient compared to many other activities suck as jumping rope (about 6x more efficient), cycling with resistance, HIIT weight training, swimming, or even sex.

Running, over long periods of time (and even shorter periods for heavier people), causes great stress on the knees, ankles, heels, and spine. Some of the damage long distance runners do to their knees over a life time leave them in wheelchairs later in life from such extensive knee damage. Running is brutal and when it comes to time spent va calories burned, all the aforementioned forms of cardio blow it out of the water and are far less impactful on the joints.