LoS member posts about raiding in Jan 2002

[khanable]

Still blows my mind that jeff kaplan (overwatch) = tigole

This fuckin' nerd got a career out of being a EQ jerk!

[Pescador]

One key difference between then and now is the frequent patches he mentions - I'm sure we all remember on live, there was a weekly downtime in addition to sporadic downtimes for minor patches or other reasons. So full repops were happening quite frequently, whereas here you can go months at a time without a repop. I'm sure it's been suggested a million times, but frequent, brief server outages to force a repop (and mess with boxers!) would loosen up the raid scene at the top so you aren't forced to live and die on timers and trackers.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Pescador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One key difference between then and now is the frequent patches he mentions - I'm sure we all remember on live, there was a weekly downtime in addition to sporadic downtimes for minor patches or other reasons. So full repops were happening quite frequently, whereas here you can go months at a time without a repop. I'm sure it's been suggested a million times, but frequent, brief server outages to force a repop (and mess with boxers!) would loosen up the raid scene at the top so you aren't forced to live and die on timers and trackers.

That's a good point. And nothing unclassic would be involved.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Pescador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One key difference between then and now is the frequent patches he mentions - I'm sure we all remember on live, there was a weekly downtime in addition to sporadic downtimes for minor patches or other reasons. So full repops were happening quite frequently, whereas here you can go months at a time without a repop. I'm sure it's been suggested a million times, but frequent, brief server outages to force a repop (and mess with boxers!) would loosen up the raid scene at the top so you aren't forced to live and die on timers and trackers.

Not classic! Oh wait, it's the exact opposite ... why does is this the only thing on the server that we're not trying to be classic about?

[Rygar]

Quite a stretch saying I'm trying to make it my version, it is like the PBAoE argument of 25 mobs not being classic exactly but mimicking the classic experience.

Zone line pulls on raid mobs and mallet dumping for agro is a stretch to say was widespread behaviour in classic, and even more of a stretch to say it wouldn't have been hit with a nerf bat if it was standard meta.

As a thought experiment, say a classic bug was found that you could hand in 1 copper to an npc and get some random tier 1 raid loot reward and enough exp to ding to 60. Do you leave it in because, "hey! It existed in classic! " Or do you stop and say, "was clearly not meant to function this way" and take it out? Ivandyr's Hoop a great example too.

[Zemus]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quite a stretch saying I'm trying to make it my version, it is like the PBAoE argument of 25 mobs not being classic exactly but mimicking the classic experience.

Zone line pulls on raid mobs and mallet dumping for agro is a stretch to say was widespread behaviour in classic, and even more of a stretch to say it wouldn't have been hit with a nerf bat if it was standard meta.

As a thought experiment, say a classic bug was found that you could hand in 1 copper to an npc and get some random tier 1 raid loot reward and enough exp to ding to 60. Do you leave it in because, "hey! It existed in classic! " Or do you stop and say, "was clearly not meant to function this way" and take it out? Ivandyr's Hoop a great example too.

Slippery slope much?

[skarlorn]

tried to read; couldn't.

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quite a stretch saying I'm trying to make it my version, it is like the PBAoE argument of 25 mobs not being classic exactly but mimicking the classic experience.

Zone line pulls on raid mobs and mallet dumping for agro is a stretch to say was widespread behaviour in classic, and even more of a stretch to say it wouldn't have been hit with a nerf bat if it was standard meta.

As a thought experiment, say a classic bug was found that you could hand in 1 copper to an npc and get some random tier 1 raid loot reward and enough exp to ding to 60. Do you leave it in because, "hey! It existed in classic! " Or do you stop and say, "was clearly not meant to function this way" and take it out? Ivandyr's Hoop a great example too.

you're competing with Trump for "most logical fallacies using the least number of characters" here

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Zemus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Slippery slope much?

People always argue slippery slope, I can see that, but most everyone is conveniently OK with the no boxing policy (newsflash: not classic but ruined a lot of gameplay. Not even sure if RMT was classic allowed in our era).

Stop viewing in black and white and admit some gray areas are OK for the P99 experience, devs do a great job of not taking it to extremes.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're competing with Trump for "most logical fallacies using the least number of characters" here

Um... not sure what to make of this, thought I had a pretty clear response. Always amazed how angry people seem to get when I state my opinion on those matters and make things personal.