VZTZ assimilated by Rogean

[naez]

I think it was Rogean who said SZ rules in the first place. I masturbate to the thought of greenie griefing everynight, don't tell us EQ nerds we need to get a life.

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(I can live with +/- 8 levels though because I know how big of crybabys the prey is)

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop trying to convince yourself pvp in EQ is good. It has and always will be terrible. There is a reason those servers died off.

Actually Zek started dying during Planes of Power and the following expansions, for two reasons:

1) The gear-gap wasn't impossible to overcome until plane of time gear....even people in VT gear were killable by people of equal level in just bazaar trash. Plane of Time gear had WAY to many SVs and raw health, making it impossible for someone in non-VT gear to even compete.

2) POK books and instancing made pvp easily escapable...you rarely got to actually KILL anyone anymore.

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea, until some random level 1 guy comes and trains you with a dragon over and over and over or you show up to a level 60 guild PvP fight and the other guild brings 10 level 39 cleric invulnerable healers.

That's why you have a feeder guild for people who are still leveling up.

OOR healers are far better than having poopsockers who rush to level 50 just so they can sit in Gfay corpse camping level 6s.

If you want a real population on this server, you're gonna HAVE to put a limit on the pvp level.

[vinx]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop trying to convince yourself pvp in EQ is good. It has and always will be terrible. There is a reason those servers died off.

My most memorable moments are from Vallon Zek 00-05
when i loaded up EQ for the first time, i called my bro and asked where we should play? we both decided Vallon Zek (Teams play) cuz it sounded good, and i want to be part of a team!
for the first year maybe 2 (since i never hopped servers) we thought ALL servers were pvp LOL

I wouldnt trade that start for anything,. true switchin to blue later was boring and slow but it eventually grew on me. now i can only take pvp in short bursts.. maybe 2-6 months
BUT IT WAS FUN AS HELL!

[naez]

Originally Posted by KilyenaMage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually Zek started dying during Planes of Power and the following expansions, for two reasons:

1) The gear-gap wasn't impossible to overcome until plane of time gear....even people in VT gear were killable by people of equal level in just bazaar trash. Plane of Time gear had WAY to many SVs and raw health, making it impossible for someone in non-VT gear to even compete.

Zek wasn't even combined til like at least Omens of War. Also, I'd argue the gear gap got too wide even earlier, possibly Velious and definitely in Luclin. How else do you explain the massive failure that was the Good Team?

2) POK books and instancing made pvp easily escapable...you rarely got to actually KILL anyone anymore.

thats why you hit up the hotzones they always far from a book

[naez]

any zoneline is a "book" anyways since people can just plug away

[vinx]

LDoN camps were far from books to

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by naez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zek wasn't even combined til like at least Omens of War. Also, I'd argue the gear gap got too wide even earlier, possibly Velious and definitely in Luclin. How else do you explain the massive failure that was the Good Team?

Velious was the START of the gear gap for sure. NTOV and ST loots gave your guild a huge advantage. However I was in the weakest top-tier guild on TZ and we were clearing ST shortly after the top two guilds.

I can only speak about my experiences on TZ.

On Tallon Zek the gear gap didn't become impossible to overcome until Pandemonium poopsocked their way into the elemental planes then shut all other guilds out by permakilling at least one flagging mob.

They continued doing this even after they were killing Quarm, causing a huge gap where the 2nd place guild was JUST breaking into eles while basically all of PDM was in full poTime regalia.

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by vinx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LDoN camps were far from books to

LDON camps were a long time ago.

[vinx]

Originally Posted by KilyenaMage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LDON camps were a long time ago.

yea, but was one of my favorite hunting areas =P