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Old 04-18-2017, 11:35 AM
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You can land slow on Emp. I imagine you could lull his entire room and charm them one by one and send them at him. If he's slowed charm breaks wouldn't be too hard to recover from.
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Old 04-18-2017, 06:54 PM
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This all still feels way too complicated. It also feels silly that all of the lists are being made by people who either don't have experience with those mobs or who haven't touched those mobs in multiple patches of major mechanics changes.

The comparison to speed running was a good one. Full raid gear and clickers is like a TAS and is still cool, but stands apart from a human Any% or 100%, etc

I also find these kunark zones boring; it's been done
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:39 PM
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This all still feels way too complicated. It also feels silly that all of the lists are being made by people who either don't have experience with those mobs or who haven't touched those mobs in multiple patches of major mechanics changes.

The comparison to speed running was a good one. Full raid gear and clickers is like a TAS and is still cool, but stands apart from a human Any% or 100%, etc

I also find these kunark zones boring; it's been done
seb/HS crawl is 15 years old, memorize every pather/do everything right, its gear, clickies and rng.

like i said op onto somthing. make a new thread titled "Solo artist challenger showcase" or somthing like that and post fun videos of different solo stuffs/dungeon speed running for ppl to rate/critique and enjoy.

server needs fun communal stuff like that, not more tiresome lists and rules
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:25 AM
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This all still feels way too complicated. It also feels silly that all of the lists are being made by people who either don't have experience with those mobs or who haven't touched those mobs in multiple patches of major mechanics changes.
This is a community effort and you're more than welcome to contribute your knowledge of the said mobs.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:26 AM
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Thing is - not everyone memorized every pather and can do everything right. Not everyone played EQ for 15 years. Not everyone is a top notch soloer - that's why there are tiers and one's progression can be quantified.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:55 AM
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Very interesting pos thx for the job

Can you add some old world zone as warmup for new people or sub 60 one (lower guk , solb ..etc)
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:53 PM
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Thing is - not everyone memorized every pather and can do everything right. Not everyone played EQ for 15 years. Not everyone is a top notch soloer - that's why there are tiers and one's progression can be quantified.
Agree...
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:57 PM
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Here is a proposition for Low level challenge, starts as early as lvl20. Lets say you cannot attempt target if you're above its level ?

Tiers one :
- befallen : the thaumaturgist lvl 20 necro
- blackburrow : lord elgnub lvl 22 sk

Tiers two :
- Runnyeye : the goblin king lvl 25 war / goblin captain lvl25 war / an evil eye lvl30 wizard
- Permafrost : high priest zaharn lvl 30 cleric / King Thex'Ka IV lvl31 war / ice giant diplomat lvl35 wiz
- SolA : Solusek Goblin King lvl 30 wizard
- Najena : the widowmistress lvl 35

Tiers three :
- Cazic thule : avatar of fear lvl 38 sk
- Paw : the ishva mal lvl 40 necro
- Kaesora : Xalgoz lvl 42 necro
- Dalnir : the kly lvl 40 wizard
- Lower guk : a frenzied ghoul lvl 42 war
- Lower guk : The ghoul arch magus lvl 45 wizard
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:16 PM
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I will use that when compiling mob lists for these zones. Runnyeye and Dalnir sound particularly promising as these zones are so out of the way, it will almost be like new content for a lot of people.

Soloing the Goblin King at level 30-ish (?) should be an epic achievement.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:18 AM
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You can land slow on Emp. I imagine you could lull his entire room and charm them one by one and send them at him. If he's slowed charm breaks wouldn't be too hard to recover from.
No need to imagine what's possible when you've actually done it: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...&postcount=743

Relying solely on calm is pretty risky. There are quite a few mobs you need to calm to pull him out of there or to be able to fight in the back of his room without getting adds. Yeah you can slow him, but he also casts dots and can't be stunned (or mezzed except with rapture), so on a charm break you either need a clicky or balls of steel to get your pet recharmed without getting killed... especially if it happens near the pull when you've got emp's pet coming at you too.

And that's just as a chanter. A necro needs to rely on a slow clicky or a pet with a proccing weapon or no slow. A shaman has even better slow but needs a clicky for DPS or needs to be able to spend 10+ minutes fighting him without getting respawns on top of him. Etc.

But as I said, he is definitely soloable, without clickies even for a chanter with some preparation and a bit of luck.
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