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Old 04-04-2017, 08:36 AM
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The problem is with the nature of EQ/P99. The simplest solution to keep people from being crazy is to only allow raid creatures to die at a sane time, something like "Raid mobs may only be killed between 8est - 12est". This eliminates pretty much every issue people have with raiding (the employed at least). The problem is now you have 700 players in ToV contesting raid mobs because every slap d!ck guild on the server wants in on the pixels. Every fight becomes a desync sh!t fest and its fun for no one.

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Old 04-04-2017, 08:39 AM
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Old 04-04-2017, 09:00 AM
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They are doing nothing. Nothing to petition, no supensions. If A/A didn't compete on mobs we wouldn't get suspended either.
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You can't expect guilds based around a 24/7 raid availability and racing to ever behave like adults. The entire premise draws people with mental illness. It's not an environment that encourages people to play the game healthily. These sorts of guilds will attract the socially maladjusted now and in the future. They historically always have.

They also operate with a locker room mentality that glorifies childishness.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:35 AM
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The hills have eyes. No telling who's pming sirken juicy fraps.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:39 AM
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Nothing? Maybe Omni... get the fuck outta here. What we do diff is pick and choose our battles. You guys on the other hand fucking train us on sontalak and try to vulture it like we are awakened. Holy shit pull your head out your ass unless you want that fraps to go up too.
Do it. Their warm bodies aren't brainwashed like AW and would consider jumping ship if multiple suspensions were eaten.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:45 AM
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The question is what are Omni/Rustle not doing? Clearly by not operating like A/A they don't get in trouble.

There is an established track record of Sirken and Rog being quite irritated by the behavior of the cutthroat raiding establishment, whatever guild(s) are occupying the niche at any moment in time. They want to see a healthier game at the end but the rabid competition for end game content has always driven the hardcore to play this game in a manner that effectively locks out the rest of the server. It's like a bunch of stingy toddlers hitting each other and throwing rocks at each other in the community daycare sandbox (Rog's box) when the rules are simply that people should behave like adults, not large man-children.

If A/A approached raiding in a more sane manner, they wouldn't have found themselves suspended for 33-50% of the potential raid days. The harder they compete the fewer pixels they get.
If the development staff actually didn't want the hardcore players around, they wouldn't be choking off loot just to retain those players longer, and they'd have enforced a rotation long ago. They'd also do more weekend repops rather than the 4am weekday ones.

From the available evidence I'd say they like a player base that's positively ravenous.
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Old 04-05-2017, 01:54 AM
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The simplest solution to keep people from being crazy is to only allow raid creatures to die at a sane time, something like "Raid mobs may only be killed between 8est - 12est".
This would completely deny raid content to europe and asia. Thereby forcing them to play during less sane hours. 4am est works pretty well for europa(noon) and asia(7pm). 4am sounds pretty good for them.
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Old 04-05-2017, 04:21 AM
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The whole idea of "competing" needs to be deconstructed. It's really just griefing other players by denying them dragons to kill.

That there's some value in that sort of "competition" is an impressive delusion. Not sure why the staff here enables it.

Then again it is classic.
Well said. Everything you wrote is exactly my sentiment on the raid scene here and the players involved. As soon as a raider uses the word "compete" or any variation of the word I can't help but roll my eyes.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:09 AM
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The problem is the nature of people.
the nature of some of the raiders on P99.

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Basically, p99 players are disadvantaged kids just trying to get a second chance at life. The raid scene is Jerry Sandusky. The gm's are Joe Paterno who sometimes tells Jerry to cut it out, but they never actually change the game, and so shit keeps happening. And then it all blows up and the gm's are like, well, no one was forcing you to hang around with Sandusky, so tough bananas.
Funny, and yet, sadly true about the top raid scene.

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The whole idea of "competing" needs to be deconstructed. It's really just griefing other players by denying them dragons to kill.

That there's some value in that sort of "competition" is an impressive delusion. Not sure why the staff here enables it.

Then again it is classic.
Picture if you will, the neckbeariest of them all, driving their spouse (or blow up doll?) to the mall during the holidays. They bring snacks in the car to poopsock the best parking spot. Once they FTE this spot; they scream at the other drivers that they are cucks and should try harder. After exiting the car and disposing of all the pee jugs and cheetos wrappers, they once again manage to gain FTE @ the door, while holding it for no one else. Slinging insults at each store attendant and shop keepers due to the mad house rush for their holiday gains. Instead of "Merry Christmas my beloved family" it is, "HURRY UP AND GET IN THE CAR YOU WORTHLESS MAGGOTS! I've got pixels to deprive those casuals!"
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