Raiding Guild Behavior

[Maner]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blah... That has led me to farming on my Druid on P99 while boxing a Beastlord and Paladin on live at the same time.

To comment on the "go race, get FTE, get respect" dogma. It's hard for me to race while I'm riding quads with my son, at work, or visiting MANY MANY other places than Rome. So much win in this world that's it hard to imagine focusing on racing for prehistoric content over working out a rotation with others so I don't have to live solely by "when in Norrath" ideals. Do you people have any idea how many games are on my play through list? While you spend 2 days tracking racing, I could play through Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, a Final Fantasy, or something in that time. Sheesh.

And yet that very content is obviously what you're focusing on...

[wrighter00]

meh, I'm talking about it on a forum and trying to see if anyone would/could be interesting in more rotation agreements. It's not a prime focus of mine. Truth be told, myself and a lot of FoH members have done pretty well for ourselves. There isn't much to unless we find some people interested in opening up more content.

I'm honestly hoping to open up more content for even more casual guilds than us with the same trolling tactics that the other end game folks seems to enjoy.

SolB minis to ToV crawls in under 2 years. We're kinda OP, too, but we don't get our kicks from spam farming content that others may want a piece of.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

meh, I'm talking about it on a forum and trying to see if anyone would/could be interesting in more rotation agreements. It's not a prime focus of mine. Truth be told, myself and a lot of FoH members have done pretty well for ourselves. There isn't much to unless we find some people interested in opening up more content.

I'm honestly hoping to open up more content for even more casual guilds than us with the same trolling tactics that the other end game folks seems to enjoy.

SolB minis to ToV crawls in under 2 years. We're kinda OP, too, but we don't get our kicks from spam farming content that others may want a piece of.

other than PoF golems

[wrighter00]

Yinz would love it if we really were at the Golems every 3 days. We only go there when we have newer members who needs Epic pieces, and never go there when other casual guilds are in there farming. A/A literally be poopsockin' them same race lines every week, and/or or running right up on targets that people are already working towards. Straight up training the other people in some cases.

[wrighter00]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What specifically is the problem you are trying to solve? Answer what specifically is the solution you are presenting?

I'm very confused by your series of posts. You seem frustrated and your arguments are all over the place. Maybe if we understood better we wouldn't be turning this into a back and forth bashing session.

Weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly rotations/picks. In the same way we have for A/A suspensions. Whatever time frame is easier to manage hands off. It's a little more legitimate talking to CSG about it or offering leniency than some of the others. Even something as simple as "hey, we have x number of members needing this item/target" "can you lay off it for a bit and we'll lay off this target for a bit?" Any communication is better than none.

Even a "Raid Discussion" agreement that was something a long the lines of bag limits. A point value set for each target and a set amount of points per guild/alliance to spend weekly or something like that. When your points are spent and targets dead for that week, send the troops off to exp or live their RL lives for the rest of the week.

Any option other than equating ourselves and guilds to lunchroom bullies taking all the lunch monies from the other kids for ourselves. Lately, more and more people have reached out or commented even on legitimate FoH farms and displaying overall frustration with the lack of available content for the influxes of new players.

[Sarl]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly rotations/picks. In the same way we have for A/A suspensions. Whatever time frame is easier to manage hands off. It's a little more legitimate talking to CSG about it or offering leniency than some of the others. Even something as simple as "hey, we have x number of members needing this item/target" "can you lay off it for a bit and we'll lay off this target for a bit?" Any communication is better than none.

Even a "Raid Discussion" agreement that was something a long the lines of bag limits. A point value set for each target and a set amount of points per guild/alliance to spend weekly or something like that. When your points are spent and targets dead for that week, send the troops off to exp or live their RL lives for the rest of the week.

Any option other than equating ourselves and guilds to lunchroom bullies taking all the lunch monies from the other kids for ourselves. Lately, more and more people have reached out or commented even on legitimate FoH farms and displaying overall frustration with the lack of available content for the influxes of new players.

I could do long but i ll do short cause my english is limited.

Why should people play like YOU wish when you're not trying to play how they wish to play ...

They were some "good" agreements & rotations like 3/4months ago (in my opinion obviously) but something happen ...

[Convict]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what is your definition of prime time? Just curious.

Pay attention to the server population and you'll be able to quickly discern when prime times are. Its not a personal opinion, its just statistics.

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

meh, I'm talking about it on a forum and trying to see if anyone would/could be interesting in more rotation agreements. It's not a prime focus of mine. Truth be told, myself and a lot of FoH members have done pretty well for ourselves. There isn't much to unless we find some people interested in opening up more content.

I'm honestly hoping to open up more content for even more casual guilds than us with the same trolling tactics that the other end game folks seems to enjoy.

SolB minis to ToV crawls in under 2 years. We're kinda OP, too, but we don't get our kicks from spam farming content that others may want a piece of.

Solid post and I agree 100%. I don't know how many times it has to be said but clearly the point never gets across.

This is not a progession server. It is a time-locked server created for nostalgia purposes.

The problem is that this server with non-instanced end game content attracts exactly the type of player you describe that "get their kicks from spam farming content" because they can lord it over the little guy (casuals) to feel superior in a video game.

[Sadiki]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not a progession server. It is a time-locked server created for nostalgia purposes.

And the same counter-arguments are always:
1. You can't decide how people should play!
2. But the raid scene is fair to everyone!

Without having to acknowledge that,
1. When the server ends up toxic, yes, you can. When your competitiveness turns into harassment and arguing, that is a line that shouldn't be crossed, per the Play Nice Policy and all that jazz. It's a weak argument, really.
2. Making something fair, but leveraging it to what only a few people are willing to do, isn't really fair. I don't think I've played a single game in my life that has 16 hour wall staring. I've done it, tracked things, raced - it's silly.

Honestly, I'm surprised that hundreds of players coming back to a game from 1999 aren't actively trying to all band together to do all sorts of things. I'm cool with what I do, a few more mobs here and there would be nice and I love items and progressing, but it's more about the people. Modern day MMOs have turned gamers into shitbags. :/

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys you're way over complicating this issue

Raiding on P99 = You're a cuck

Not raiding on P99 = Not a cuck

Not raiding on P99 but yet coming back to the forums to point on you don't raid on P99 on quite literally a daily basis, multiple times per day = Low T Beta Cuck

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not raiding on P99 but yet coming back to the forums to point on you don't raid on P99 on quite literally a daily basis, multiple times per day = Low T Beta Cuck

i rate those guys lower then vegans