Raiding Guild Behavior

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you say so, i personally know a lot of people wouldn't even bother logging in for months at a time if you had to wait 6+ weeks for your guilds spot in the rotation.

That's healthier than the alternative.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys laugh but honestly Maner is right. This has happened time and time again over the years and you guys would be fools to ignore it. Hell, some of you were involved in the transition of power.

If you believe this you are truly mentally deficient.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The timesinks are 100% player made. If 6 guilds contest 1 raid mob, 2 trackers each guild and the mob goes its full 16 hours, that's 320 wasted man hours with no reward. Swap that for a rotation, Only 2 people are tracking for 32 hours invested man hours, but they are guaranteed a reward. The people who refuse to cooperate are imposing timesinks on everyone.

Not enough pixels per player? Then why are you playing here? I thought people like the scarcity of things? But I guess the appeal of scarcity is only when you're the one controlling that scarcity.

but but but welfare pixels and um yeah you got to earn it......

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Fingurs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only we could work in Lock Out timers. All of this could be avoided. Then again, new threads would arise complaining "its not classic".

I think of threads like this everytime in a Pantheon forum someone is lecturing about the importance of "Competition". No - It was, and it is, horrible on a 7 day mechanic.

The only true/good competition is everyone on an even playing field , and bragging rights about who did it first. THat only came with lockout timers or instancing. I think we know which one worked better :P

But right now everyone is on an even playing field. Its just some people are upset that others commit more time than them

[Sadiki]

Not sure if people literally cannot see how ridiculous P99 raid rules are because they are insane, or if they just refuse to admit it when they get what they want.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Sadiki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if people literally cannot see how ridiculous P99 raid rules are because they are insane, or if they just refuse to admit it when they get what they want.

But. Before this it was even worse. Do you want every spawn to be like a Lodi fte with 30 lvl 1 pets spam attacking right on what ever mobs spawn you're after? Most the rules are to stop that sillyness. Nothing's perfect but the alternative is much worse as is easily exploitable.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but but but welfare pixels and um yeah you got to earn it......

Every pixel that this server produced was a welfare pixel. Making artificial busy work is not the same thing as working.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every pixel that this server produced was a welfare pixel. Making artificial busy work is not the same thing as working.

So very very true. Everybody here is eating the free dinner at the Rogean & Nilbog Pixel Gospel Mission. We're all charity cases, even the few who donate to the charity. All this idiot talk of "working" for pixels has never been anything other than idiot talk. Kinda sad really.

[Fingurs]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But right now everyone is on an even playing field. Its just some people are upset that others commit more time than them

Problem is, those 'some people' can block hundreds from content. The way you phrase your comment would suggest that its simply a time investment. When its not that simple. Time does not = success. Opportunity does. This is why no game after EQ that was a major success ever used this mechanic again. Even Brad McQuaid himself in his other game, and Im fairly certain Pantheon - abandoned this tactic.

Ive been on both ends. It stinks.

[Sadiki]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But. Before this it was even worse. Do you want every spawn to be like a Lodi fte with 30 lvl 1 pets spam attacking right on what ever mobs spawn you're after? Most the rules are to stop that sillyness. Nothing's perfect but the alternative is much worse as is easily exploitable.

Correct, but just because there's a worse alternative doesn't mean that the current ruleset isn't terrible. I don't think the mentality of having to keep the top-end happy needs to exist on this server after all that has happened, even if it affects me negatively. There's a lot more guilds out there than A/A, CSG, Rustle, etc. Nothing changes after bans.

This server is full of selfish crazies. P99 might just be a rehabilitation program for mental hospitals.