Raiding Guild Behavior

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Comoc1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one gives a shit about he hypothetical "time" you would lose because you have to compete. Spoken like a true puss.

Find me one person outside of this community who thinks it takes balls to raid here. Only a puss would "compete" with people who have no interest in competing and then pretend its an achievement.

[BallzDeep]

The player made time sink does not work. The math is bad because you are just trading less man hours for more man hours in the long run. For example, someone is playing this game until Pantheon is released. This is a fun time sink for 2 years while you wait. You are a tracker. You initiate 16 hours of tracking every 4 weeks for a mob. It takes your 2 years of tracking before you get 70% BiS. Pantheon gets released and you still haven't gotten that last 30%. You continue playing EQ casually to finish that last 30% even though Pantheon is released. If you were already full BiS you would of quit because you feel accomplished. You don't want to quit at 70%, you keep playing when you could of already quit had you joined a raid guild and took 75% of the mobs. Another hypothetical situation for you.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could be wrong, but wasn't BDA actually the guild who up'd the ante on poopsocking? I seem to remember FE and TMO being content with camping out on poop mtn and racing to log in/engage with minimal numbers. Then BDA decided to "Farm Juggs" and sit in the lair with like 100 players, which resulted in FE and TMO doing the same.

You guys don't seem to realize that part of the hard core mentality is maximizing loot while minimizing effort. Obviously the first takes priority, but almost all tactics used by guilds like A/A are designed to ensure they get the loot by doing just slightly more than the competition is able/willing to. Take ToV for example, on live crawling through that wing was a full day or multi-day evet, here it can be cleared in hours.

It makes sense that the only way smaller and less experienced guilds can compete is by upping the ante, but you can't really put the blame for sitting on spawns (bda) or coth ducking (taken) BS on the hard-core players, because they only adopted those tactics once their old, less demanding strategies quit working.

I guess my point is, its funny to see BDA people complain about player made time sinks when they actually started those trends in an attempt to compete with the larger and more organized guilds.

As the anti was upped the worse it got. after awhile it was all about who could hold multiple DA stalls for minutes on trak and vs. I don't think the BDA poopers still had much of a shot back then even pooping spawns (maybe vs)

I can attest the only solution when you're not organized is to poop. You remember the guild I led? I was reluctant but the members of Full circle literally would level in vs pit just to get fte then Tmo would kill (there was no fte shouts) we also got an inny this way. The worse was coth ducking tho, fuck you taken.

This is just natural and those poopers from fire and ven will join another guild once the burnout occurs for easier pixels.

[Comoc1]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Find me one person outside of this community who thinks it takes balls to raid here. Only a puss would "compete" with people who have no interest in competing and then pretend its an achievement.

No one in a hardcore raiding guild is motivated by "proving" shit. And you aren't competing against anything bud your a forum troll, so you don't have a leg to stand on.

We like pixels and killing dragons.

[Papa]

Originally Posted by Comoc1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We like non-classic elf-sim racing to guarantee 1 hour of special non-competing time.

[Xzavie]

Server is AIDS.

Sever shows why MMOs went to instancing.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember that your member base is at least 100% adults, and encouraging people to play that way is inevitably going to destroy some lives. Give that some thought.

Yes because everybody lives in the U.S. and works a weekdays only 8-5 job....

Don't think you guys realize how many people play on this server who are foreigners or work night shifts.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Comoc1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one in a hardcore raiding guild is motivated by "proving" shit. And you aren't competing against anything bud your a forum troll, so you don't have a leg to stand on.

We like pixels and killing dragons.

Then why not do it on Phinny? You have nothing to prove and you like pixels and killing dragons. Seems to me that Phinny is the ideal environment for such an outlook.

But that's not why you're really here, is it?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes because everybody lives in the U.S. and works a weekdays only 8-5 job....

Don't think you guys realize how many people play on this server who are foreigners or work night shifts.

I think Cecily is reasonably qualified to provide an accurate cross-section of the populations of the top raiding guilds.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Xzavie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server is AIDS.

Sever shows why MMOs went to instancing.

Which is exactly why the people who play here are here. Way to embrace the worst change made to Everquest and every other mmo.

It's like you dont understand why people play here and yet you choose to reply anyway.