Raiding Guild Behavior

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what you're saying is that you'd rather be referred to as the modern day BDA than the modern day FE? You're probably too neckbeardy for that.

Rustle achieved in a few months after creation what BDA always wanted and never could in more than 5 years on P99. Minimal poop sock with maximum gains in the raid scene. Fun times. Some big kills.

Many ex BDA are in Rustle. They all tell me the same thing. "The biggest difference between Rustle and BDA as a guild is competent and effective leadership."

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA achieved in a few months after creation on Phinny what Rustle never can on P99. No poop sock with maximum gains in the raid scene. Fun times. Some big kills.

[getsome]

Lets be frank any 20-30 people who can raid three hours at the same time 2x a week on Phinny can be farming Quarm in a few weeks.

[Samoht]

It's a good example of capable people choosing not to participate in the raid-zone shit-show hosted by Sirken and finding success elsewhere.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rustle achieved in a few months after creation what BDA always wanted and never could in more than 5 years on P99.

You're leaving out the fact that when Rustle was created, everybody was already level 60 and raid geared. BDA was always just a stepping stone guild that many Rustle members themselves used to get ahead.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a good example of capable people choosing not to participate in the raid-zone shit-show hosted by Sirken and finding success elsewhere.



You're leaving out the fact that when Rustle was created, everybody was already level 60 and raid geared. BDA was always just a stepping stone guild that many Rustle members themselves used to get ahead.

That's not totally accurate even those from rampage play new chars (mine didn't even exist till rustle). We have a mix. It's mainly just good leadership.

[getsome]

I fail to see how BDA was used as a stepping stone by Rustle. Rustle did not exist on P99 until a month after BDA left.

I actually play on both boxes. Each one is different and has pro's and con's.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Fasttimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not totally accurate even those from rampage play new chars (mine didn't even exist till rustle). We have a mix. It's mainly just good leadership.

BDA was always full of noobs working their way to level 60, learning to raid, and getting gear for the first time. You're telling me that a bunch of players already level 60 and raid geared and a bunch of PLed twinks can do better than a bunch of level 46+ players learning to raid for the first time?

Go figure.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA was always full of noobs working their way to level 60, learning to raid, and getting gear for the first time. You're telling me that a bunch of players already level 60 and raid geared and a bunch of PLed twinks can do better than a bunch of level 46+ players learning to raid for the first time?

Go figure.

We are full of noobs too I'm in it.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fail to see how BDA was used as a stepping stone by Rustle.

For the duration of Kunark, BDA's server status was the stepping stone guild to gear up and level players that already did not have a character to meet the requirements to join TMO/IB/FE/Foreskin/Aftermath/Awakened. You're not fooling anybody trying to say that none of those players eventually joined Rustle. It's just alternate reality.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets be frank any 20-30 people who can raid three hours at the same time 2x a week on Phinny can be farming Quarm in a few weeks.

So what's your point?