ninja looting does not mean you make the rules

[Gibcarver]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kept randomly afk'ing while I pulled mobs into camp without telling us, who kept dotting mezzed mobs and almost kept killing people. The item was no different than any other other we rolled for, I just never saw the guy from VD before and wasn't sure if he would ninja something in spite of the rules previously mentioned to him

^--- all fabrications. If grabbing a pop from the fridge 5 feet away twice in two hours constitutes randomly afking then there might be the closest thing to truth in what he said.
Guess all LZ can do to try and defend himself is to try and run me through the mud with him...sorry but I don't think it will work.

[FearsEdge]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't even win the damn thing, but had I, it would have gone to our SK that was previous in the group for a huge chunk of the day that we were at that camp, who actually PROVES that he knows how to tank and deserves an upgrade.
zzzz

Once again, you don't have to explain anything, this says it all. This is my point here in making this thread. You decided that since you looted it, you were the one who could evaluate someones worth and decide what loots they deserve. That is colossally arrogant, and I stand by the statement that you would not want to be treated that way. WOuld you like to be in a group for two hours and then you don't get an upgrade because someone ninja looted and made up a bunch of bullshit reasons in a row why you shouldn't get it? You know you would be mad.

edit
and you admit that you didn't win the roll, and I know he did

which shouldn't matter, since he needed it

[Gibcarver]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you use a 8/28, or even a 7/21 weap when you have a 20/39 sky sword that we got for you? I'm done with this. The rules were CLEAR and MENTIONED.

we rolled greed on the blackjack because it wasn't an upgrade for anyone(including myself duh).
I swapped to the 8/28 WITH A LIFETAP when the cleric said oom...healing myself for hundreds of hp while he got mana. And when you kept pulling while the cleric repeated that he was oom I kept using it until we took a med break.

[FearsEdge]

That reminds me of the other bullshit reason you made up. You said "consider it a trade for the free loot" when you left KC, and you told me the same thing when you logged off and stoppped defending your actions on EQ. I don't even know if you were there when we did joint VD/DA raids, but don't pretend like we were just getting free stuff. I have two items from sky, my Golden Efreeti arms, which I got on a just VD raid, I think, but at the very least I was helping to kill, and my Fiery Avenger, which you didn't do diddly for.
I don't know about his sky sword, but if our guild was there than we were helping. Don't act like you are some bigshot who gets to decide that because you were in a guild that we did joint raids with, that you are some how owed. What an asshole.

[guineapig]

Can anyone give me a good reason not to move this personal argument to R&F?

Because I am not seeing what this has to do with the server at large anymore.

[casdegere]

Look, regardless of who AFK's is good at their class, bad at their class. Whether you progressively begin to dislike those in the group you are in. Its about fairness and being the better man, Ogre or Halfling what have you. You could have simply given the item up and been the bigger man. Instead look what has happened with you on the defensive with your reputation in jeopardy. Now it sounds to me that you do care because you have responded here that you do care about your reputation and that you believe this to be all a misunderstanding. But when you continue advocating your actions...and from what it looks like, there was someone who could have used the item in your group which you do not deny. Its not going to fly I think. Actions always speak louder than words after the fact. And the fact is, you have the item and are unwilling to correct this misunderstanding.

[FearsEdge]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone give me a good reason not to move this personal argument to R&F?

Because I am not seeing what this has to do with the server at large anymore.

At the time, it was a current event, it had just happened. but now, no. There is no reason not to move it.

[Labyrrinth]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone give me a good reason not to move this personal argument to R&F?

Because I am not seeing what this has to do with the server at large anymore.

Maybe as a lesson for people to define and make sure everyone understands PUG loot rules - again and again and again.

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[Swordsly]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good night.

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Again, Good Night

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End of Story

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Done

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finito

guys, i think ledzepp is trying to avoid questions. He decides who gets loot, he decides who lives, who dies. Get over it!

But seriously, this is standard DA attitude. It all started way back when DA was mass recruiting just to have their apps track raid mobs with NO CHANCE at raid loot. This mentality has carried over to fusion, its just a guild full of trolls and neckbeards.

[Massive Marc]

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