ninja looting does not mean you make the rules - Page 4

casdegere · #31 03-29-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He joined in the last hour or two and failed to pay attention/understand/question how that was occurring the entire night.

The key thing here is that you, LZ decided to keep a dropped item with a group looking on. At the very least, everyone should have gotten a roll for it.

I've noticed this alot in groups i've been in. Certain people tend to loot ALOT. I assume they have empty bags and destroy stuff they feel wont sell for very much so they can keep looting. I ask them for words for research that they pick up but rarely do they ever give them to me. A few times people pick up stuff and decide, themselves that we will roll for it at the end. What normally happens is that they end up leaving the group and no roll ever happens.

No more I say. From now on its need before greed then full greed random immediately. Its done quick and on the spot with WHOMEVER is there in the group at the time that it dropped. If you invite someone and something drops 5 minutes later. That's the price you pay for having a group. A small price I might add. Soloing has its place but it also gets boring and tedious. If all you care about is loot, everyone will see you for that quickly and I hope you enjoy soloing. You can make as many toons as you want but the player never changes. We three amigo's have a small list going now on who we will not be grouping with due to this very thing. Most of the time we do not say anything about it in group chat. We are in Vent. usually. But make no mistake, your actions are being observed.

dredge · #32 03-29-2011, 10:49 AM

Give him the Cleaver,

you can't decide that this item isn't up for rolls because my buddy wants it, but that's all besides the point, why did it even get to that?

It dropped and he's the only one that can use, so be a decent human being and give him the cleaver. Why would anyone even have to think about this?

Bruno · #33 03-29-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Give him the Cleaver

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Swordsly · #34 03-29-2011, 10:51 AM

TFB - Typical Fusion Behavior.

Now, everyone shut up and let ledzepp talk!

FearsEdge · #35 03-29-2011, 10:52 AM

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The point is we were rolling on everything up until and including when he joined. We rolled on countless items while he was in the group. Somehow he did not pay attention to, or he simply chose to ignore that fact. Most likely when he was semi-afk leaving me to tank mobs and get them off our healer constantly. Him and the cleric were both non-guildies. The cleric stated that they did not care about our rules, they only wanted XP.

Before both of them we had a full guild group for 6-7 hours, where all of this was perfectly clear. We kept getting items, we kept giving them to people who needed them outside of group. This continued while both of them were in group. Even on a 1hb mace I could've used, he rolled against me and won because those were per the group rules. At that point i knew the rules were obvious.

The axe dropped and he said "wtf" when we were about to roll, I explained them again in detail and he flipped shit. We all rolled, someone got a 75 and he decided to roll /ran 100 100. I figured oh shit, I guess he doesn't really care about it, because thats not a serious roll.

10 minutes later, after he's pissed off about our rules that he should have obviously known by now, as he won a mace using them, he rolls 99 randomly. After the loots been distributed based on a roll, a second roll later never typically counts tbh.

He's just pissed that a guild group had certain rules for an entire day in effect, and he chose not to pay attention. EVERYTHING was /random'd throughout the day.

Not sure how much else I need to explain, he simply ignored the circumstances and raged on us for not following "standard pug procedure" when it was never a pug.

Again, Good Night

You don't need to explain anything. It was quite obvious you were not going to give it to him after the third or fourth ad hoc bullshit reason why he shouldn't have it. Everyone who has any sense knows that they don't want to group with someone who acts like you did there, and I have already seen a few posts here expressing their disapproval of your behavior. Hopefully when you do a little growing up you will treat others the way you would want to be treated.

Gibcarver · #36 03-29-2011, 10:53 AM

When you(ledzepp) said you wanted the 7-21 1hb after linking me your two 14-28s I knew you were just joking. after the cleric said he would actually use the 7-21 with no stats and wasn't joking I gave it to him caus he was going to use it.

Ledzepp02 · #37 03-29-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by casdegere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The key thing here is that you, LZ ..etc words etc...

The point is that that was the second thing I ever even looted in that group, because I didn't know this guy that kept randomly afk'ing while I pulled mobs into camp without telling us, who kept dotting mezzed mobs and almost kept killing people. The item was no different than any other other we rolled for, I just never saw the guy from VD before and wasn't sure if he would ninja something in spite of the rules previously mentioned to him, which he seemed to abide by.

I held onto the item for the rolls, simple as that. I didn't even win the damn thing, but had I, it would have gone to our SK that was previous in the group for a huge chunk of the day that we were at that camp, who actually PROVES that he knows how to tank and deserves an upgrade. The entire group wanted to boot the guy shortly after he joined simply because he could not tank whatsoever. But I had a conscious, he was at least more dps while I typically tanked mobs off of everyone else.

He ignored the rules and decided to flame and fabricate lies instead. End of Story.

zzzz

dredge · #38 03-29-2011, 11:02 AM

"who actually PROVES that he knows how to tank and deserves an upgrade"

oh, I forgot. You get to decide who's worthy for loot, never mind, that's the way it works here I see...

Grow up dude and give him the Fucking Cleaver.

FearsEdge · #39 03-29-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is that that was the second thing I ever even looted in that group, because I didn't know this guy that kept randomly afk'ing while I pulled mobs into camp without telling us, who kept dotting mezzed mobs and almost kept killing people. The item was no different than any other other we rolled for, I just never saw the guy from VD before and wasn't sure if he would ninja something in spite of the rules previously mentioned to him, which he seemed to abide by.

I held onto the item for the rolls, simple as that. I didn't even win the damn thing, but had I, it would have gone to our SK that was previous in the group for a huge chunk of the day that we were at that camp, who actually PROVES that he knows how to tank and deserves an upgrade. The entire group wanted to boot the guy shortly after he joined simply because he could not tank whatsoever. But I had a conscious, he was at least more dps while I typically tanked mobs off of everyone else.

He ignored the rules and decided to flame and fabricate lies instead. End of Story.

zzzz

So you admit that you did not win? You admit you have no claim to the cleaver you ninja looted because you did not win the roll.
He did, in fact, win the roll. So is he getting the cleaver? Nevermind this crap about him not being able to tank, I have levelled from 1-51 with him, he knows how to tank. Even if that were true, it is not relevant for like the 300th time, if he was not doing the job to your satisfaction as a group, you get rid of him. Its that easy. You do not get to keep him around for your convenience and then decide that he doesn't deserve any loot. Thats bullshit and you know it.

Who is this guy you said you would give it to if you won the roll and didn't win but are giving it to anyways? Do they agree with your tactics here? Would they want it, knowing that you screwed someone who was there out of it?

Ledzepp02 · #40 03-29-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gibcarver [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you(ledzepp) said you wanted the 7-21 1hb after linking me your two 14-28s I knew you were just joking. after the cleric said he would actually use the 7-21 with no stats and wasn't joking I gave it to him caus he was going to use it.

Only after you lost the roll on the cleaver, as some sort of trade?

Why would you use a 8/28, or even a 7/21 weap when you have a 20/39 sky sword that we got for you? I'm done with this. The rules were CLEAR and MENTIONED. They were not pug rules, learn that not every damn group is a pug. We would have been better off without you fuckin up mezzed mobs in the group but I kept you dispite the group wanting you out, because no one else was lfg. If this was a raid and you were the shittiest, most afk SK there, would you get any loot? Probably not.

Done,
Finito,
ZZZ