Leaked message from Awakened member

[Rygar]

Use your head folks, the 'never get my ST key' line is probably a red herring to throw you off and wasn't really said. My guess is this came from a seasoned vet and just wanted to cover their ass in case of a DKP dock or guild boot.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well they likely weren't accounting for the fact that it wasn't going to be a fair trial, that's been the story on the raid scene forever. You've seen both sides of that world. In BDA we couldn't get a win ever in that court, in Rampage y'all got plenty of wins.

I've seen both sides and tbh feel Sirken was pretty fair

He had some gaps where he was MIA and it left guilds unchecked, but otherwise... fair

And comparing BDA petitions to Rampage or A/A petitions is apples and oranges.. completely different worlds and to say we had "tons of wins" is super incorrect from a success rate standpoint.

[RedXIII]

I really like the 10 day suspension period. I feel like 5 days as Chest already mentioned had more room for tinfoil. 10 days you are forced to lose atleast one full cycle if not 2.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen both sides and tbh feel Sirken was pretty fair

He had some gaps where he was MIA and it left guilds unchecked, but otherwise... fair

And comparing BDA petitions to Rampage or A/A petitions is apples and oranges.. completely different worlds and to say we had "tons of wins" is super incorrect from a success rate standpoint.

I can personally go back into my resolved petitions and see all the losses. When Sirken wasn't keeping things in check he was delegating to proven corrupt folks like Derubael who Unbrella literally had on speed dial. Like Fingerz said shits all been relegated to skype channel chicanery.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by teija [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are 3-4 aftermath fraps floating around(even after detoxx batphone to DELETE everything lul), detoxx/mistinn alt-tabbing 100% in all these and at least 1 fte on doze by mistinn with it. More people in Aftermath used this than Awakened.

I think you guys aren't reading the full 2-3 sentences that I wrote. The message there isn't who did what, but how it was done and who tried to end it.

If it wasn't done in the midst of a half a dozen other completely seperate blatant cheating incidents shown on fraps, your narrative might have played out better.

I've said it before, but pras Sirken for trying to teach a lesson - including giving us a suspension for asking for concessions too frequently. I know that had an impact on the way we operate and I'm hoping what he's done to you all is having a similar impact.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can personally go back into my resolved petitions and see all the losses. When Sirken wasn't keeping things in check he was delegating to proven corrupt folks like Derubael who Unbrella literally had on speed dial. Like Fingerz said shits all been relegated to skype channel chicanery.

You don't think A/A/rampage have a graveyard of petition losses? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what I saw of BDA petitions it usually lacked solid proof (very rarely did we have fraps when I was around). And tbh I remember submitting like 4 petitions total during my time as an officer because we rarely even stepped into the raid scene let alone had an issue.. 4 is like a Sunday afternoon for A/A

just my opinion on it all~

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can personally go back into my resolved petitions and see all the losses. When Sirken wasn't keeping things in check he was delegating to proven corrupt folks like Derubael who Unbrella literally had on speed dial. Like Fingerz said shits all been relegated to skype channel chicanery.

Post the Plane of Fear and Nagafen incident reports. I remember them like they were just yesterday.

Ahhhh, the good ole days.

[kotton05]

Did I see chest compare Brella to derubael? My god.

youre gonna lose all the petitions you put in without proof (rip alarti because he constantly reminded us)

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh is that how it works? Because Rampage, IB, and whoever else was on top only got about 1/10th of this "hate" we see now. Awakened isn't getting any more kills/success than previous guilds, assuming they're even on top now. I stopped keeping score, but I think AM is winning 2017 so far.

I'm pretty sure that's because they fizzled out after 4 months over and over and over again.

[BallzDeep]

Sad part about all of this, the guild that is supposed to Rustle people, seems the most rustled over Awakened. The effort and the stories you believe over a video game when you're claiming casual. "Rustled"