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Old 01-31-2017, 06:09 PM
Mygicmeen Mygicmeen is offline
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::shrug:: Ive never had a DaP complain about 25p a port. 60p a port seems awful steep for pressing a button and loading. Had a guy port me like 6 times within an hour and a half for 25p a pop. He didnt seem mad. (Technically, I'd be asked to give 58p by the 1 per lvl thing...)
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Old 01-31-2017, 06:27 PM
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Level 60s tip 60pp a teleport?! -rolls a druid-
Typically they pay 15-20, mid levels tend to pay most.
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Old 01-31-2017, 06:34 PM
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I am a rank and file member of Dial a Port. I do not speak for the guild but I can speak for myself.

Please remember that DAP guild members are players just like you. We are spending our precious free time engaged providing a much needed service for a fee. We could be doing other things but instead we choose to provide the P1999 community this service.

Our fee structure is not set in stone. We port you and you decide what the fee is. That arrangement favors the person being ported and is very risky for the DAP member as we provide a specified service for an unspecified fee. All DAP members know this in advance but as members we are okay with it because it's part of our guild code and rules.

DAP members are also human. We have good days and bad days. We try to be as professional as possible but sometimes we make mistakes or forget to cast SoW on a player.

Also, please consider that often we get many requests for ports. During peak server times, it's hard to keep track of them all and give your port request the attention that it deserves because of this. We are doing our best!

What we are hearing here is just one side of the story. Often people come to these forums and complain about DAP without the public hearing from the DAP member who is being accused. It breaks my heart to see this because the majority of DAP members are kind and helpful. We go the extra mile to make sure our customers are happy.

Regarding the alleged situation with the DAP member there's a couple things I'd like to discuss. First, one of our guild rules is that when you are not porting or indisposed you have to go /anon. This is to prevent DAP members from getting tells when they are leveling and not porting which causes the person requesting a port frustration. This is a wise rule and the person in question should have been /anon. I'm sure it was just a mistake.

If something like this happens a lot then yes it's a problem that the DAP leadership needs to be made aware of.

The second issue is that DAP members are not employees. We are independent contractors and free agents under the DAP banner. We set our own hours. As such, we have the right to refuse service to anyone. Please realize that we can get some pretty demanding requests. Sometimes players ask us to pick them up in far away dungeons and port them. This can be very dangerous for the DAP member and takes a lot of time that they could be porting other players.

We also offer ports to high level zones Skyfire and Emerald Jungle. I have died porting players here after being ambushed by high level mobs. It just goes with the job. I eventually got a rez and went on my way.

If a player requests that I pick them up in the middle of Siren's Grotto please realize that I may not feel comfortable going there and risking death just so I can port you out.

Other times, DAP members spend a lot of time doing a pickup and then get stiffed. In cases like this can you blame a DAP member for not wanting to port this person again?

That said, most DAP members will do their best to accommodate port requests. I rarely if ever turn anyone down. Most DAP members will port newbies with the knowledge that they don't have much money and often give them lots of buffs too. We also do corpse runs ports at no charge and most of us will port newbies for free. As a member of DAP I and most of our members are here to help the player community while making some plat along the way.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a few members. Most DAP members are kind and considerate. We can and will do better. We have a great leadership team at DAP who really care about the reputation of our guild and serving the P1999 community.

Thanks for your time today!
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:50 PM
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^ lol that's a lot of lip service and glossing over. Yea it was an accident Amelias didn't go anon and instead put an AFK message with requests for Plat offers. DaP is good for the most part, but the problems stem from the fact that it's an accept anybody willing to port guild with incredibly high turnover and lax leadership. I'm sure Supremacy and Tupakk will cracking down on the bad apples after enough bad press, but you're kidding yourself if you think the dial druids are actually using /anon like a taxi light like they're supposed to. Most of the time I message a druid above level 40 I get a reply about the wait time.

But hey, no alternatives and really it's not that bad
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:11 AM
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I've used DAP a few times when I have used one of my other characters and I'll tip/donate based on the zone that I wanted to be ported too. I consider the zones as the following:

Zones in Antonica, Odus and Faydwer regions are low zones and I'll tip 25-35pp.
Zones in Kunark are middle zones and I'll tip 35-45pp.
Zones in Velious are high zones and I'll tip 45-60pp.

I feel that if you are a Druid or Wizard and decide to port people that you are providing a service. You are running your own personal business and players who need ports are customers.

The one problem I do see with some people who port and even with some DAP members is the lack of taking that extra step to help out or even be nice. It's not just all about the money. 95% of the time I have gotten a port. I noticed that the porter and I would be porting out after being grouped without a word being said and as soon as we arrived and I would tip for the port, the porter would just port out. Not even a thank you or ask if I needed anything else?

Maybe it's just my nature but I will port people if I'm bored or looking to waste time and I've had so many repeated customers who pay me good money because of the little extras I'll do besides the port. I'll cast a sow, see invisible and ask them if they are KOS to druid guards based on their race/class? Porting to the harder zones, I'll even throw in a camouflage.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:33 AM
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Key is to tip well and know DaP isn't a right it's a service. I generally overpay if the person sows me without asking or they are rather speedy. This translates into me being able to get ports usually at a drop of a 🎩 Since people tend to remember those who payed well.
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:01 PM
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Ports are a luxury, not a right. There are a lot of really nice porters who do free ports for CR or to new guys, but these are acts of kindness that cut into their time or business. Ask nicely and explain your situation ahead of time. You did neither to either of these porters.

If you can't find a porter to help? Play it like it's 1999 and either run it and risk it or hunt closer to your starting location.

Even when I was brand new I tried my best to donate a plat per level. If I couldn't afford that, I'd hunt locally or run ... just like I had to do in 1999-2001.
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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Ports are a luxury, not a right. There are a lot of really nice porters who do free ports for CR or to new guys, but these are acts of kindness that cut into their time or business. Ask nicely and explain your situation ahead of time. You did neither to either of these porters.

If you can't find a porter to help? Play it like it's 1999 and either run it and risk it or hunt closer to your starting location.

Even when I was brand new I tried my best to donate a plat per level. If I couldn't afford that, I'd hunt locally or run ... just like I had to do in 1999-2001.
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:34 PM
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Confirmed that Amelias is a huge douchebag and DaP is not to be trusted. Move along everyone.
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Old 02-01-2017, 04:07 PM
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Confirmed that Amelias is a huge douchebag and DaP is not to be trusted. Move along everyone.
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