@Sirken "a fair and legitimate chance at that target"

[saujee]

The Current Top Guilds are great at what they do. No doubt about that and respect to them. I understand all these rules are made for classic. But classic did not stay in Velious. It continued forward. These top guilds in p1999 would be in PoP by now and the upcoming guilds will be taking their shots at end game Velious vs other Guilds similar to their Strength in progress.
So Technically it would be harder to win races in p1999 than it was in live.

If the GM's are happy with how end game raiding works then that its ok because is their game.

I was just wondering if there was an alternative to allowing all guilds a fair and legitimate chance at those target vs guilds in full BiS Gear who require less numbers and less organising due to less numbers needed to kill targets and win coth races. They will always have a head start vs guilds who are less equipped.

Have a nice day everyone. See you all in game.

[xKoopa]

Originally Posted by saujee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Current Top Guilds are great at what they do. No doubt about that and respect to them. I understand all these rules are made for classic. But classic did not stay in Velious. It continued forward. These top guilds in p1999 would be in PoP by now and the upcoming guilds will be taking their shots at end game Velious vs other Guilds similar to their Strength in progress.
So Technically it would be harder to win races in p1999 than it was in live.

Have a nice day everyone. See you all in game.

These rules were made during velious FOR casuals. These rules make it easier to compete as a casual guild

Literally, mobs would pop and pull would be happening in 30 secs before these rules. Thats what made it impossible for casuals to compete since you need 40+ ppl to instantly log in when the mob spawns

[Danth]

If you want your pixels, there's nothing stopping you from spending a tour of duty in one of the "A" guilds. Both those guilds get pixels and neither of them could be described as exclusive. They can't afford to be exclusive because they continually need to recruit people to replace personnel losses due to burnout. Spend six months or whatever getting a decent quantity of high-end pixels, then jump back down to whatever second- or third-rate guild you came from if that's what floats your boat. I don't see a lot of this in practice because most the folks who creep up to the high end tend to develop the Pixel Sickness in a bad way and end up pushing ("I really need that 3rd alt decked out!") till they burn out completely and quit (meaning in many cases they never really use those pixels they worked so hard for), but it's certainly possible.

If you want to experience the raid content, do so someplace else. None of the top guilds or potential contenders on P1999 have serious interest in doing that. It's just about the pixels. Stick a second-tier guild in North Temple Veeshan with no competition and it's the same, they just pull to the zone-in or some other similar location anyway. Nobody crawls through the entire thing.

Danth

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spend six months or whatever getting a decent quantity of high-end pixels, then jump back down to whatever second- or third-rate guild you came from if that's what floats your boat.

Warning: Stockholm syndrome is real on this server. Don't freak out when you realize we're just more organized and focused versions of the same people you like to play with in your current guild.

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warning: Stockholm syndrome is real on this server. Don't freak out when you realize we're just more organized and focused versions of the same people you like to play with in your current guild.

stay woke

-Tenderli

[SoekiWiz]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not reading any of these wall of text replies, but to answer your question OP, the best solution is to infiltrate one of he two top guilds with a crew of close friends. Befriend as many people within said guild as possible, paying special attention to court those of considerable talent. Carefully sow seeds of discontent amongst the ranks. When you feel the stage is adequately set, make your move. Incite revolution and either claim your seat as the new crowned leader at the conclusion tear from the guild such a significant portion of their roster that they flounder and eventually drown or at least long enough for your insurrection to come out on top.

You're welcome.

We did that on Quellious too!

And thus, <Explicit> was born. Memorieeeeees

[Mythanor]

Originally Posted by SoekiWiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We did that on Quellious too!

And thus, <Explicit> was born. Memorieeeeees

I miss Explicit

[SoekiWiz]

Originally Posted by Mythanor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I miss Explicit

Who are you?! I've been lookin for my Quellious'ers since I got on p99.

Denizzen Squirrelbeater, Mank of VM, reporting for doody.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by saujee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was just wondering if there was an alternative to allowing all guilds a fair and legitimate chance at those target vs guilds in full BiS Gear who require less numbers and less organising due to less numbers needed to kill targets and win coth races. They will always have a head start vs guilds who are less equipped.

It would help if once you got fte you had like an hour window to kill the mob. Since you don't have bis gear and need more people and more time an hour would let you gather your forces to get a fair and legitimate chance at those targets.....

Oh wait they already allow that.