Raid Suspending best idea GM's had in a long time

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by botrainer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These rules were pushed upon the server by the top 2 guilds, it wasnt agreed upon that "footraces" were the cure all be all to the problem on this server...it was to make it possible to cover more mobs, with fewer trackers....

Number of trackers / cothers needed for ToV / Kael weekly before footraces: Appox 3 PRE mob (wizard for TL box, FTE'er, coth mage)

Number of trackers needed for same mobs weekly: 1 group for ALL TOV dragons (1 to 2 trackers, 3 racers, now Spirit of wolf caster outside ToV) and 3 needed for Kael...

So going from 30 trackers needed weekly down to only needing 10, 1/3 the crew for the same outcome...Again back to my point of one guild making new rules to better suit their cause, I dont believe the whole server agreed on these terms.

yeah don't wanna burst your bubble but csg/divinity were the ones pushing for footraces and lockout timers cause they thought it would allow them to crawl through ntov

AM supported the foot races because they were losing coth wars & were banking on nalken's scripted alt+tab jumping to win them mobs

summit was in april '16 and only a handful of csg/divinity people have even tried to run since then

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[347skp]

Curious minds what to know:

Did Botrainer ever get his epic or was it given to a more worthwhile 2nd alt?

Is Ikon a millennial?

[Fragged]

On AB live we fought neck and neck, there was leap frogging and training - It was a huge mess.

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AM supported the foot races because they were losing coth wars & were banking on nalken's scripted alt+tab jumping to win them mobs

your 100% correct, it had nothing to do with the fact that detoxx loves racing and hates to coth.

banking on nalkens' scripts lol, hes just like you and I he just wants to win and pays attention, same for Mistin, Detoxx, Hjial, Kelz, Mani all those dudes. ( sorry if im missing any other good runners just using this as a reference )

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gordon Wrinn was the Associate Producer of Everquest. This policy applied to EVERY SERVER in the game. words words words

we do not allow for raid targets to be controlled or claimed indefinitely either. every guild has the same chance to secure a raid mob, the only limits being those put upon themselves.

but parading those quotes to claim every server had a rotation is laughable at best. i don't know if you realize this, but a lot of us played EQLive and a lot of us raided there.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Ikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who said I want a GM enforced rotation, I don't really care at all one way or the other, on a new server yeah it would be nice to actually have classic rules to go with classic gameplay - this server is unfortunately way past saving imo.

The statement from Sirken was - "The PnP was not enforced on all servers". My reply was to provide evidence that it actually was, evidence from Gordon Wrinn along with his Produce Letter stating it was, another statement from Gordon Wrinn dated a year later showing it was being enforced, a statement from a verified guide stating they enforced it, and threads from players of the period stating it was being enforce, and complaining that it was being enforced.

Then we had some pixel nerds come on and try to refute the evidence that I provided by pretending the word Spawn meant it didn't apply to dragons and raids - which I successfully was able to show to be incorrect - linking a post from a player who referred to it being enforced for plains and dragon runs.

Then because they were unable to 'win' that argument they shitted the goal posts over to something else, rotations, to which I provided evidence which refuted what they were trying unsuccessfully to show.

So at the end of this lovely exercise we have:

A number of posts from Gordon Wrinn, an associate producer of Everquest
A post from a guide
A post from 60+ everquest players.
And more

Vs

Someone that claims to have been a guide 17 years ago and knew the status of every petition on at least 4 or more servers from 2000 onwards.

And

A couple of pixel nerds opinions and memories from 17 years ago.

Wheres your money going?

Your a fucking idiot dude. You obviously know shit of Everquest and you're just looking up old posts from people complaining and trying to recreate your nostalgia through their gaming experience even though you never experienced it yourself.

If you think PnP was in place you need to look up what type of shit Afterlife, Triton, FoH and other guilds were doing at the times. They were actively cockblocking each other not online on their server but cross server as well.

[BallzDeep]

online = only*

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

online = only*

Good thing you clarified, my mind was straying to dark places...

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Ikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its opinion and illogical. Once again evidence or your just wasting your time posting your opinion.

Heres a post that might interest you:


planes = Raid. Dragon Run = Raid.

Lmfao idiot, the original poster is saying that him bringing up the pNP policy when it involves guilds that do planes and dragons will mean he won't get invited to them. The person is not referring to planes and dragons directly in regards to the pnp policy. This is just more proof that while pnp may have been enforced sometimes when dealing with groups and people soloing, it had nothing to do with raising.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Kagey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just another casual asking for free pixels.

If only these fuckin' freeloading casuals would work for their pixels...

Originally Posted by Kagey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only have 1 fte race on my belt.

Everyone knows you have to race once before you are entitled to pixels for eternity.

Get your asses on the line next week so you can sit back and talk shit about how no one else wants to "work" for their pixels for the next few years.