Shocking leaked image shows spirit of compromise on p99 in A/A's absence!

[Necrostoner]

That how it was started but not the overall point. Macro view is the best. Don't judge a book by its cover. Maybe, you are catching the drift.

[Phantasm]

I'm really interested to see how long before the usual antics continue from the A's and what/if anything is done to them when inevitably they foam and froth.

My guess: no time flat

We've identified the problem with high end raiding numerous times; unanimously decided as overcrowding. Now we've had some solutions suggested: rotations, increased spawn rates, increased drop rates, lockouts, simulated repops to replace the week-week model. Good start, too bad nothing ever changes and never will.

It sounds depressing as hell to admit but that's the way it is. This project was not intended for the good of the many. Either compromise (find a way to appeal to the class C's), compete (naw), or concede (give up).

Either way, I'm looking forward to the new Alliance (you guys need a name btw) and seeing what'll happen when CSG 1 combines with CSG 2. Maybe final form?

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would 25 guilds with 100 people in each be cheating? It doesn't take 100 people to kill these mobs. Each guild would be able to kill everything, and even if they couldn't, you are preaching for an all inclusive rotation. They would belong on it to at least attempt the encounters. So, 25 guilds on a rotation. Where do we sign up?

Do I really have to explain why breaking up your guild into smaller guilds so you get more spots in a rotation would be dishonest?

Do you have a super low IQ or are you pretending to have one? Would you be interested in being studied?

[Phantasm]

Dishonest or not its what people would do Ikon.
He didn't say he *would* break his guild up, but inevitably something would happen where the inflated guilds as they exist now would shrink and smaller guilds would take over. Like it's been stated many times, the content isn't too challenging, more of a kill it before it kills you thing. Kill the things, with the things.

But if a rotation existed people would perfect it, kill targets with less people to maximize the gainz (#), and so naturally try to keep their guilds small (or entities separated).

[RedXIII]

No reason to have a 200 member guild if you get to schedule and kill shit with 40-50ppl.

Just team up with another 40-50 for aow/tunare.

The retarded and low IQ in this thread is you. Guilds are this big because we need people from all time zones to cover 24/7 times.

QQ harder. Its lovely.

High end game pixels were never something everyone can get. thats classic. deal with it.

[Expediency]

You guys are dreaming big. Dream smaller and negotiate a 1 month rotation for the month of february. That way after a month we can see what worked and what didnt and nobody gets their feelings hurt when it gets broken since its scheduled to end.

Things change, guilds grow and die, leaders retire; an open ended rotation would be great but hard to set up with those variables. So eliminate the time factor and try something short term.

[Phantasm]

Rotations water down the competitiveness that everyone enjoys so much about raiding. THey are always designed with grand purpose but always devolve into the same thing, getting the most for the least.

What I think would be best is actual punishment with accumulating offenses. To me seems pretty clear which guilds are involved with the most squabbling (be it inherent to having more raids or not). However, rules are rules, even if there are more for some people. IMO if you break the rules the rules should break you (bans, removals, suspensions)

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rotations water down the competitiveness that everyone enjoys so much about raiding.)

Yeah Rustle seemed so sad and disappointed you got 3-4 days of uncontested ntov

[Phantasm]

AFAIK Rustle actively races when the timers line up with the runners.

<- doesn't actually play that often

Next time I agree Rustle shouldn't kill any targets when A/A is suspended. It just makes them look weak and unapologetic at the same time

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

<- doesn't actually play that often

Im out