Open Letter to Nilbog & Co: Raid Item Nerfs

[Jimjam]

I remember around when Dragons of Norrath came out. A dev was posting about furious bash (makes bash cause more aggro). Apparently they had only just realised that bash was not working as it was intended since first release of EQ (the melee stun aggro was meant to be equivalent to that of melee stun aggro). Rather than fix bash and shift the balance they have created around this mistake, they instead decided to improve shield aggro and add other incentives to shields.

Seeing as some raiders were using mallets anyway in classic I think maybe mallets should be left alone. If we are going to make non-classic changes, I would like to see bash 'fixed' (and also taunt, which was another overlooked bug for a very long time; it simply refused to work on higher level mobs, instead of simply having a lower rate of success (this was another mistake commented on by a dev).


That's what I recall, but who knows, maybe I made those things up in my head long ago!

[khanable]

Is there documented proof that people used mallets in classic? Even as a classic warrior I never heard of this being done :/

And out of curiosity, do mallets even work on phinny? Are they used?

[maskedmelon]

I like Dald's idea, but I'd also be for removing item recharging (I know it would not fix most of the issues) even though it is classic because it was unintended and makes absolutely no sense from an RP standpoint. I mean wtf, your weapon gets re-magicalized if you sell it to a merchant who already had a magicalized one or de-magicalized if sold to a merchant who already had an empty one in stock. That do t make no sense at all :c

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there documented proof that people used mallets in classic? Even as a classic warrior I never heard of this being done :/

And out of curiosity, do mallets even work on phinny? Are they used?

Never use mallets on Phinny. Recharging items isn't a thing there. Very early on we'd use puppet strings for a bit of aggro because we had like 20 of them but now our tanks are 60 so taunt actually works well for tank transitions.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there documented proof that people used mallets in classic? Even as a classic warrior I never heard of this being done :/

And out of curiosity, do mallets even work on phinny? Are they used?

No idea if there is documented proof. On that part of my post I was just parroting above. Perhaps we've been deceived!!!

[khanable]

So the warrior builds threat on engage the old fashion way? And people wait for assist?!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the warrior builds threat on engage the old fashion way? And people wait for assist?!

Usually a warrior starts with riposte to build a bit with a tight chain, debuffs and slow land, then the chain slows, assist is called. We call for tank switches in vent, after two CHs the next tank taunts. It's easy peasy.

[khanable]

Ooh y'all have the staggered timers for discs..

weird

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ooh y'all have the staggered timers for discs..

weird

It's tremendous. Feels goog to innfer flame and have stonestance still available. Sometimes we use Rangers to build aggro because weaponshield is gross. Other times we let Relbaic tank and he just dies because he's an iksar (and to a lessor degree an SK)

[Erati]

@Cucs

Pretty sure mallets work like they do here just without recharging there isnt much of a point. Also I dont know how to find Lyguna on there, I tried to take a ruby to her once and after 2 hours of not seeing her I gave up and sold to a vendor hehe.