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Old 12-29-2016, 05:18 AM
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There are many rogues out there wearing epic (41% haste), Siblisian Berserker Cloak (26% haste), and Runebranded Girdle (27% haste). RBG was really close to BiS pre-velious (for the STA/HP), and SBC had higher raw stats than Hiero cloak (although I probably would wear Hiero cloak if I had to choose - HP is king).

So they have 41% haste on their auto attacks from epic, 27% haste on BS from RBG, and the haste on SBC is ignored.
RBB is a bit better than RBG, it's 31 haste.
Epic is 40% haste but otherwise this is the correct answer.
41% haste on backstab can be acquired from ToV, Kael, PoSKY, or VP
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Old 12-29-2016, 01:02 PM
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RBB is a bit better than RBG, it's 31 haste.
It wasn't about the haste, idiot. Take your off-topic non-sense and your welfare primal somewhere else.
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:28 PM
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It wasn't about the haste, idiot. Take your off-topic non-sense and your welfare primal somewhere else.
wait so you're saying 17 hp > 4% haste on a rogue?
lol k stay at the bottom of the meters, i do over 100 dps on velious raid targets self buffed
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wait so you're saying 17 hp > 4% haste on a rogue?
lol k stay at the bottom of the meters, i do over 100 dps on velious raid targets self buffed
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Old 12-29-2016, 09:48 PM
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Unless you're end game raiding the average casual scrubs aren't going to care if you've got a RBB or RBG... play to enjoy it.

This is a subtle reminder to go outside if you're too immersed like the posters above.
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Unless you're end game raiding the average casual scrubs aren't going to care if you've got a RBB or RBG... play to enjoy it.

This is a subtle reminder to go outside if you're too immersed like the posters above.
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:11 PM
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Clearly, the guy to take advice about immersion levels from is the one who manages to post ten times+ in every thread on the board.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:46 PM
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wait so you're saying 17 hp > 4% haste on a rogue?
lol k stay at the bottom of the meters, i do over 100 dps on velious raid targets self buffed
You can't really be as stupid as you act on the forums, can you? Once again, it's not about the haste. The RBG has better stats than RBB because of the raw HP. There's no discussion there.

Also, Ragebringer haste not applying to backstab is a fairly recent discovery, most likely related to recent changes in the item cards, so it is assumed that the rogues I'm referring to never even knew that they were helping their haste, if they were helping it at all back then.

So you're just interjecting off-topic non-sense for the purpose of pretending you're right or have some kind of knowledge of the game that no one else does, but in reality, you're just proving that you can't even read to begin with.

Stop. Posting.

The reason I made my post was just to illustrate how to work around the bug. You don't need to dissect it seven different ways to prove some kind of pseudo-superiority. Your primal is still welfare.
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Old 12-30-2016, 06:24 PM
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You can't really be as stupid as you act on the forums, can you? Once again, it's not about the haste. The RBG has better stats than RBB because of the raw HP. There's no discussion there.
Anything that gives you DPS is higher priority than HP or resists on a rogue. Meaning haste, atk, and strength until capped with buffs. 4% more backstabs can make a measurable difference, ESPECIALLY on in/out type fights where a slightly faster timer could net you an extra backstab every time you go in. Its shocking how inexperienced you are. Raids get you pixels and your only job in a raid is to do damage. Having more HP is nice for when you shoot off 10 patch heal macros and everyone's AFK/in cast/oom, or for if you extremely out gear your tank and you legitimately risk pulling threat on a 3x mallet with a hide fail, but on blue it's even less of a big deal because healers can duck spells, warriors have better initial aggro from rechargable consumables, and there's no PVP.
You should be able to do any raid encounter in the game with like 1400hp and basic resists without dying.
In 80%+ raid encounters you should be able to survive the entire fight freshly rez'd looting nothing but your weapons and jboots.

RBG becomes better than RBB in one situation:
- You already have a better haste item equipped
NOT INCLUDING RAGEBRINGER
For most velious raiding rogues RBG is better because they'll be using ToV claw to get their 41% haste.

hp is really good for my rogue though, because all my stats and resists are capped with self buffs and i have the best weapons that are in the game and have dropped on my server. i think hp and clickies are the only way my rogue could possibly get any stronger until later in the timeline and/or if someone on red kills tunare (will never happen.)

im not saying hp isn't important, but it's very easy to cap out the damage a rogue can do with raid gear so it's worth focusing on that first.

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Also, Ragebringer haste not applying to backstab is a fairly recent discovery, most likely related to recent changes in the item cards, so it is assumed that the rogues I'm referring to never even knew that they were helping their haste, if they were helping it at all back then.
It's because ragebringer haste is item effect haste. I believe this is working as intended. It's also been working like this for at least a year and a half.

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So you're just interjecting off-topic non-sense for the purpose of pretending you're right or have some kind of knowledge of the game that no one else does, but in reality, you're just proving that you can't even read to begin with.

Stop. Posting.

The reason I made my post was just to illustrate how to work around the bug. You don't need to dissect it seven different ways to prove some kind of pseudo-superiority. Your primal is still welfare.
The fact that you think the ragebringer haste thing is a recent discovery is proof you're a bottom-tier player.
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