awakened gives up 2 vulaks

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would fully come back and play p99 if there was no more rules and 1 hr bullshit.

TRAINS TRAINS EVERYWHERE! LET THE CHAOS BEGIN!

That would be fun for awhile. I'd come back and team up with you buddy. Just to kill people though. You can have all the loots that spawns from it.

[Papa]

Gotta keep raiding on P99 where raiding is a "competition"

Except the "competition" is a mini-game inside P99 that takes place 16~ hours before the raid mob spawns and ends when someone agros it

At that point you get to kill the mob without anyone contesting your spawn

So the "competition" you all are hyped on about is really just shitty shitty shit shit

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not all guilds would be able to clear all of ToV to kill Vulak. Vyemm is the stop gap. So kill Vyemm to get on the Rotation seems reasonable. Also can't team up to get on that rotation. Guilds have to stand on their own merit. If you rotate everything there will be spots for all guilds.

Not all guilds would at first but with time and knowing you have a free spot in the rotation, it wouldn't take too long. People who never raided would start to raid just for that factor.

[burkemi5]

Ok, I have a serious question and am requesting a response. I assume, I know it's a stretch, but I assume that out of the raiding guilds, there are at least a handful of well adjusted, adult, wife having, kid having, job having, fully grown, non-autistic out there. If this applies to you, WHY do you put up with this shit. There's a plethora of other emus plus a live server to play the same content. Serious responses only please.

[Fifield]

If i were GM this is what i would do:

Week 1. Aftermath
Week 2. FFA- sock your little hearts out
Week 3. Awakened
Week 4. FFA- Awakened/Aftermath can't compete so other guilds get a chance.

Learn to share bros! Its a good thing they dont make Canadian GM's

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kill Sont. Get on the rotation.

As much as that would be fun to witness. I don't think Sontalak is the barrier to kill in ToV. Only 2 or 3 guilds could kill Vyemm without assistance anyway. Until they improve that is.

[Teako]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly at this point who gives a shit? Why don't you choose to be the better man and tell them you enjoy competition and only want 1 Vulak. That will probably set the precedent for the future and maybe on your next fuckup, there won't be any suspensions and you can just play the game. I wouldn't want a bunch of free mobs anyway for a handful of people's mistakes.

It when you guys get in this "maximum suspension to benefit as much as possible" mindset(both guilds not just AM) it turns into this shit.

Because the precedent you're promoting is a much more dangerous one --- Break the ever living fuck out of every single established raid rule by camping FTErs on Vulak's spawn.. log in on spawn, get a guaranteed 33%-50% of Vulak spawns, concede the next 1-2 and ruin the raid scene entirely. Suddenly there's no more competition, or racing.. Just guilds trying to get the first tracker FTE to guarantee a kill and concede the next one.

Without rules, and punishments for breaking those rules the raid scene will become far worse than current. The rule set at the moment works -- and the punishments are clear for breaking tracker FTE rules. It's not Detoxx, or AM pushing for "as much as possible" - it's the established punishment for the committed action.

You can't rob a bank, go home, count your money and spread it out.. Then when the FBI shows up go "oh, we didn't know. here, you can have 77% of the money back." - Not a chance.

[Fifield]

oh and i'd remove all bullshit 1hr lockouts that ruined the fun, obviously!

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not all guilds would at first but with time and knowing you have a free spot in the rotation, it wouldn't take too long. People who never raided would start to raid just for that factor.

So you are saying the server becomes healthier and grows ? Zing we have a winner!

[BallzDeep]

It does but it also creates more complications. People who are entitled feel that it's bullshit because they are "better" than everyone else. People are waiting 2 years to receive that piece of Vulak loot. People will be bottlenecked on Doze and all types of issues. There are typically only two fixes. Instance everything and give everyone a shot or Remove CSR and let the wolves fight it out.