Make Raiding Great Again

[Llodd]

So many 'solutions'. Soooo the ultimate solution = use all the solutions !

Every 3 months <or insert arbitrary number here> the raid scene changes:

Phase 1 : Race for FTE (current rules)
Phase 2 : DPS battle, No FTE - you get xp you get the loot
Phase 3 : Fighting to mobs on spawn spot only (remember leapfroggin? classic as fuck)
Phase 4 : Full on no CSR PvP Train wars (gms get a break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)
Phase 5 : Rotations (gms get a another break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)

No need for the silly long variance we currently have either. Win win !

ps fuck mage fte, that shits dumber than the rest of the dumb shit.

[Meep]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So many 'solutions'. Soooo the ultimate solution = use all the solutions !

Every 3 months <or insert arbitrary number here> the raid scene changes:

Phase 1 : Race for FTE (current rules)
Phase 2 : DPS battle, No FTE - you get xp you get the loot
Phase 3 : Fighting to mobs on spawn spot only (remember leapfroggin? classic as fuck)
Phase 4 : Full on no CSR PvP Train wars (gms get a break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)
Phase 5 : Rotations (gms get a another break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)

No need for the silly long variance we currently have either. Win win !

ps fuck mage fte, that shits dumber than the rest of the dumb shit.

It could work, but would create uncertainty on those getting all the good content at the moment. So expect a resounding "no" from the neckbeards. Would log in more often for the pvp element for sure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raid scene could be fixed with two steps that Sirken refuses to take:

- work with guild leaders to clarify and finalize rules, post them publicly and keep them up-to-date based on current precedent
- make raid petitions public in a forum that everyone can view

Sirken has been asked multiple times by multiple people on all sides of the raid scene to clarify certain rules, and he has refused again and again. His stated reason for not clarifying rules is that ambiguity reduces the opportunities for people to abuse the rules. Try not to laugh.

Probably 3/4 of the disputes I've seen have been over ambiguity in the rules. The rest were either legitimate rule violations, or disingenuous bullshit. Making raid petitions public reduces the disingenuous bullshit because it adds accountability. Having the rules clarified and posted publicly eliminates the rest of the petitions. End result: Raid scene gets better because people can't simply shout "CONCPDE" whenever they think something isn't going their way.

I eagerly accept my incoming forum ban for having the audacity to question the Will and Authority of Our God Emperor, Sirken.

quoting the best post in this thread

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raid scene could be fixed with two steps that Sirken refuses to take:

- work with guild leaders to clarify and finalize rules, post them publicly and keep them up-to-date based on current precedent
- make raid petitions public in a forum that everyone can view

Sirken has been asked multiple times by multiple people on all sides of the raid scene to clarify certain rules, and he has refused again and again. His stated reason for not clarifying rules is that ambiguity reduces the opportunities for people to abuse the rules. Try not to laugh.

Probably 3/4 of the disputes I've seen have been over ambiguity in the rules. The rest were either legitimate rule violations, or disingenuous bullshit. Making raid petitions public reduces the disingenuous bullshit because it adds accountability. Having the rules clarified and posted publicly eliminates the rest of the petitions. End result: Raid scene gets better because people can't simply shout "CONCPDE" whenever they think something isn't going their way.

I eagerly accept my incoming forum ban for having the audacity to question the Will and Authority of Our God Emperor, Sirken.

This. Yes.

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.

You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.

I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.

Make Raiding Great Again.

Make sure you thay thankth to the right perthon or perthonth rethponthible for thith degenerathy

[surron]

why not just make it classic, if 1 guild wants to lock down a raid mob and be the only 1 with the timer then fuck it thats classic eq

why isnt that how this works? SoE had no problem allowing it in classic eq, why does p99?

inb4 someone says "thats not fair"

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by surron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why not just make it classic, if 1 guild wants to lock down a raid mob and be the only 1 with the timer then fuck it thats classic eq

why isnt that how this works? SoE had no problem allowing it in classic eq, why does p99?

inb4 someone says "thats not fair"

BDA cried until they were handed raid mobs, and then they fled like cowardly dogs to retail servers

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Meep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It could work, but would create uncertainty on those getting all the good content at the moment. So expect a resounding "no" from the neckbeards. Would log in more often for the pvp element for sure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well yes. Neckbeards (A/A) dont like fun, they only like pixels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But really, It's more classic doing this than what we currently have (which is what this server was supposed to be all about). Alot of servers in classic times had each of these elements except what we currently have. The irony of that is mind blowing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At this point I sometimes wonder who is actually running (ruining) the server !

[Legday]

Originally Posted by t3kn34k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

#BringBackMages

[Fasttimes]

Bring back jav throws and camping at aary steps and trips and praying flurry doesn't kill you on log in