Any new players -- look forward to 60.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by jlxharville [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, with three 60's now, raid-geared and what not.... the only thing I have learned about everquest is that its unplayable, and unenjoyable in 90% of its aspects.

You wouldn't have 3 60s if 90% of the game were "unplayable, and unenjoyable." Furthermore, if these things were true, you'd be telling people to quit now... not to play the game in a drawn-out manner.

Your problems aren't EQ. Your problems are people. And you seem to have exceptionally bad luck (or you're having a hard time remembering all the good and neutral times because bad times stick out in memory more clearly), cause I've played here a hell of a lot longer and more than you have, and the really shitty experiences like a group waltzing in and taking over your solo camp or getting intentionally trained are very few and far between in my experience.

[jlxharville]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You wouldn't have 3 60s if 90% of the game were "unplayable, and unenjoyable." Furthermore, if these things were true, you'd be telling people to quit now... not to play the game in a drawn-out manner.

Your problems aren't EQ. Your problems are people. And you seem to have exceptionally bad luck (or you're having a hard time remembering all the good and neutral times because bad times stick out in memory more clearly), cause I've played here a hell of a lot longer and more than you have, and the really shitty experiences like a group waltzing in and taking over your solo camp or getting intentionally trained are very few and far between in my experience.

In you're experience, being the key word. Sure, I have had good times. But when I just wanna do me, and go out and farm or whatever -- its the same every day.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You wouldn't have 3 60s if 90% of the game were "unplayable, and unenjoyable."

Sure, he uses hyperbole to prove his point. I mean how does one come to the magical percentage of 90% being that which is unenjoyable on P99. That doesn't mean that he or anyone else can't level three 60s and find the majority of the end game unejoyable.

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore, if these things were true, you'd be telling people to quit now... not to play the game in a drawn-out manner.

Not particularly. Seeing he obviously feels that the journey is fun from 1-59, that makes sense that he would stress for newer players to enjoy the journey because in his opinion, 60 lvl activities are awful.

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your problems aren't EQ. Your problems are people.

This is a ridiculous statement. It's like saying "Football isn't dangerous for the players, the players are dangerous to one another!" Yes, technically the game itself is not problematic and it is the players involved, but if there were no players there would be no game. This is just a silly statement in general.

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...And you seem to have exceptionally bad luck (or you're having a hard time remembering all the good and neutral times because bad times stick out in memory more clearly), cause I've played here a hell of a lot longer and more than you have, and the really shitty experiences like a group waltzing in and taking over your solo camp or getting intentionally trained are very few and far between in my experience.

He didn't create this thread to voice his wonderful experiences he has had in the game. He is writing about his disappointment with lvl 60 activities. He also obviously has had a different experience on P99 than you, which is fairly understandable seeing you are two different people with different perspectives, personalities, etc.

Not really sure what you are trying to prove by contradicting his personal experiences with your own.

Dude is salty about lvl 60 activities. I am sure some will relate and some will not to his personal experiences.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, he uses hyperbole to prove his point. I mean how does one come to the magical percentage of 90% being that which is unenjoyable on P99. That doesn't mean that he or anyone else can't level three 60s and find the majority of the end game unejoyable.



Not particularly. Seeing he obviously feels that the journey is fun from 1-59, that makes sense that he would stress for newer players to enjoy the journey because in his opinion, 60 lvl activities are awful.



This is a ridiculous statement. It's like saying "Football isn't dangerous for the players, the players are dangerous to one another!" Yes, technically the game itself is not problematic and it is the players involved, but if there were no players there would be no game. This is just a silly statement in general.



He didn't create this thread to voice his wonderful experiences he has had in the game. He is writing about his disappointment with lvl 60 activities. He also obviously has had a different experience on P99 than you, which is fairly understandable seeing you are two different people with different perspectives, personalities, etc.

Not really sure what you are trying to prove by contradicting his personal experiences with your own.

Dude is salty about lvl 60 activities. I am sure some will relate and some will not to his personal experiences.

The lancelot whose English was less comprehensible was more fun.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...And you seem to have exceptionally bad luck (or you're having a hard time remembering all the good and neutral times because bad times stick out in memory more clearly), cause I've played here a hell of a lot longer and more than you have, and the really shitty experiences like a group waltzing in and taking over your solo camp or getting intentionally trained are very few and far between in my experience.

My experience mirrors yours Tecmos. I've been on P99 a long time--longer than you, even--and it's rather rare to encounter most of the bad types of things the original poster describes. The main exception is the horrible high-end raid scene. Yes, the high-end scene on P1999 can politely be described as a cesspool. This is well-known. I avoid it and like the game fine.

Danth

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My experience mirrors yours Tecmos. I've been on P99 a long time--longer than you, even--and it's rather rare to encounter most of the bad types of things the original poster describes. The main exception is the horrible high-end raid scene. Yes, the high-end scene on P1999 can politely be described as a cesspool. This is well-known. I avoid it and like the game fine.

Danth

High-end is admittedly awful. That's why Rustle exists as an alternative. We take the fun parts of the raid scene and ignore the worst of it. It's a good balance. In the end, you have to make the game fun for yourself. OP just seems burnt and super negative, lashing out at everyone and the server. Time to find something else to play.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the end, you have to make the game fun for yourself.

^This is what it's all about ^^ Fun is free to make ^^ just have to have a love for it.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

High-end is admittedly awful. That's why Rustle exists as an alternative. We take the fun parts of the raid scene and ignore the worst of it. It's a good balance. In the end, you have to make the game fun for yourself. OP just seems burnt and super negative, lashing out at everyone and the server. Time to find something else to play.

I don't know. Personally, it seems like an oxymoron to say "high-end raiding" and "fun parts" all in the same sentence.

That being said, I have to agree with the statement, "you have to make the game fun for yourself." At least, I agree with the sentiment here.

There are some facets of the server and game that you find awful but there are also facets you probably enjoy.

Once you determine what each is, stick to the fun parts and you will feel a lot better when playing.

You run into trouble as soon as you start trying to do stuff you do not enjoy, essentially trying to be something you are not.

If you find raiding miserable, you probably should stay away from it.

If you find tradeskills utterly abysmal, you should probably refrain from crafting.

I think people find themselves in ruts when they have conflicted feelings on this game, for instance one might want the BiS items available, but truly hate raiding. This player may try their best to raid, the entire time being miserable while doing so.

This will only create negative feelings within, and inevitably make this player seem toxic by those around them who find raiding fascinating and fun when this player criticizes what they view as bad about raiding and the scene.

Anyway, I think this guy was just posting out of frustration and disappointment, and it has snowballed into a childish back and forth between the OP and those who seem to feel the need to denigrate him.