We Are Supposed to Eat Animals !

[entruil]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree with all this. The thing that frustrates me about OP article was that the woman endangered the life of her child in a self gratifying pursuit. Sure she could have gone about it differently, but the point is she could have killed her baby because she'd rather see meat in a dumpster than deal with the guilt that her life was dependent on the sacrifice of another creature similar to her.

just read most of source link after reading this post(did not crawl into source's source links however)... so sorry for my bliss.. thank you for your patience...

this shit has me outrage'd as well with a lack of legal creative response so I have to muddy the waters in my mind's eye... /bow.


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Originally Posted by entruil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2Pac - Troublesome '96
Interpretation's gained... Peace.

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh really? I'd have never guessed ^^ But it is those things, most peaceable and humble of all life, which are most deserving of death?

Why are our responses to stimuli any more important than a plant's? Because ours are more elaborate?

Why is a cow's more important than a lettuce? Because a cow is more like us than a lettuce?

Just gonna ignore these questions because they are silly.

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I consider the source of excessive guilt with regard to their consumption a symptom of thanklessness

The guilt is over the massive amount of pain the industrialized meat industry causes to complex mammals, that are very capable of experiencing that pain on a level close enough to humans for it to be atrocious.

And it's not excessive. Very few people feel an appropriate amount of guilt for how disgusting this really is. I know I don't.

That part of Japanese culture is silly: "Oh thank you Chicken for living your entire life in a dimly lit 3x3 foot wire cage, I'm so thankful we threw you into the shredder so I can enjoy these chicken nuggets". Whether you think that death had a purpose or not doesn't matter, what I'm talking about is abusing that fucking chicken while it was alive, which is wrong.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surprisingly, there really aren't any major studies that have been done that have provided any conclusive evidence that a vegan diet is more or less healthy. I never argued that it's healthier, just that it's not less healthy and that the fact that it "Goes against nature" is a stupid defense given how many things technology has allowed us to do that "Go against nature".

Our teeth break meat apart perfectly fine. We possess both the sharpness and the strength in our teeth to easily chew and grind meat to make it easily digestible by our bodies.

Beyond that, we also possess the capacity to cook food which makes it even easier to eat. Perhaps that had something to do with the shape of our teeth. Like a warning, its easier if you cook it.

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Human teeth are shaped like an omnivore's. So what? The human body can also only survive between 4 and 35 degrees celsius, should we stop using AC and furnaces because it's "Unnatural"? We do what we need to do, technologically, to continue to thrive and if we don't continue to make progress in providing alternative diets that don't rely on meats we can't keep up with the demand. Meat production is unsustainable given our current projected population growth and there aren't really any credible sources that refute that.

Not true in any way. This kind of propaganda is put out by the same people that claim there is man-made global warming and endorse eugenics, but has been debunked on every level by tens of thousands of scientists.

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as morality is concerned, the meat industry tortures living things. You can wax relativist on it and start talking about the differences between an animal's experience versus a human's or you can try to discuss the cruel realities that exist in nature. You can even get real first year philosophy major up ins and suggest that morality is completely subjective but that line of thinking is useless at best, pretty damn dangerous at worst.

None of that changes the fact that humans, as highly developed analytical creatures with the ability to adapt to external pressures and internal preferences, have a choice to allow it to happen or allow it to stop (to whatever extent an individual can impact that). Opting out has value and while it's debatable what sort of moral value the decision has in the long run, there's not much point arguing that less death and torture is a bad thing objectively.

Its sad that animals suffer. You are right, they should do something to prevent that. That isn't an argument why we aren't supposed to eat meat though.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its sad that somebody raped your wife. You are right, she should do something to prevent that. That isn't an argument why we aren't supposed to rape people though.

That's what you sound like. The only difference is you're causing pain to an organism that can't defend itself.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what you sound like. The only difference is you're causing pain to an organism that can't defend itself.

Eating meat is the same as rape. Heard it here first folks

Hillary 2016
Boots on the ground

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

crows have a CNS

trees are clockwork entities that are sending some kind of signalling that causes their treebrothers to carry out some biological process that defends against locusts. it's a rube goldberg machine.

hope this helps

Hahaha

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what you sound like. The only difference is you're causing pain to an organism that can't defend itself.

Closer comparison would be it sucks that you were raped by your father, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't have sex.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heard it here first folks
Hillary 2016
Boots on the ground

we so fawked...

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hahaha

now we can add meat to our hillary trump steaks... mmmmm.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eating meat is the same as rape. Heard it here first folks

Hillary 2016
Boots on the ground

It's called an analogy.

You know, where we compare two things that are conceptually similar but not quite the same or sometimes not even close in magnitude.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just gonna ignore these questions because they are silly.



The guilt is over the massive amount of pain the industrialized meat industry causes to complex mammals, that are very capable of experiencing that pain on a level close enough to humans for it to be atrocious.

And it's not excessive. Very few people feel an appropriate amount of guilt for how disgusting this really is. I know I don't.

That part of Japanese culture is silly: "Oh thank you Chicken for living your entire life in a dimly lit 3x3 foot wire cage, I'm so thankful we threw you into the shredder so I can enjoy these chicken nuggets". Whether you think that death had a purpose or not doesn't matter, what I'm talking about is abusing that fucking chicken while it was alive, which is wrong.

Then you're not talking about eating him at all ^^ You just the authority on silliness tonight though, huh?