Regarding the new spell file and such.

[runlvlzero]

screw it i love not being able to PBAoE scarbs in EC according to the devs (super sarcasim because if they were serious about serious business they'd recode mob run speed from the ground up)... but not being able to right click spell mem is even better and a great substitute for changing core game mechanics that really need to be fixed.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

screw it i love not being able to PBAoE scarbs in EC according to the devs (super sarcasim because if they were serious about serious business they'd recode mob run speed from the ground up)... but not being able to right click spell mem is even better and a great substitute for changing core game mechanics that really need to be fixed.

I love whiney, presumptuous idiots who insult people who provide a free service as "not doing it right."

Don't reproduce.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love whiney, presumptuous idiots who insult people who provide a free service as "not doing it right."

Don't reproduce.

plz bannhammer us both messianic is the jesus love of all that is holy and righteous

Messianic you have no idea what your doing you just log on here to look for easy to critizize posts... was i nice consise and assertive no, and i don't feel like being so

but is my logic sound? yap

am i gonna argue it with you ... newp at least i didnt resort to name calling. "idiots"

never said the devs were idiots lol

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Messianic you have no idea what your doing you just log on here to look for easy to critizize posts

Apparently yours fit the bill.

was i nice consise and assertive no, and i don't feel like being so

Then don't expect me to be when I respond to your nonsense.

but is my logic sound? yap

1) I can't PBAoE scarabs in EC - therefore, the devs aren't doing it right

That's some sound logic there.

I'm curious to see why you tied PBAoE spells to run speed. Do you mean targeted AoE's? Because they work fine when I quad specs. I've been killing junk with AoEs for more than 20 levels, and it works just fine.

2) The devs choose not to re-code run speed from the ground up (if that is even possible or wouldn't take 500+ man hours) - therefore, they're not serious about the server

Tell me, oh mighty God of coding, how long that would take. Then, I want you to tell me why that's such a massive priority despite the fact that the difference between classic mob run speed and current p99 run speed is probably a 15-20 percent difference - tops.

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

never said the devs were idiots lol

I never said that you said they were idiots.

You were more patronizing than that. You insulted them as "not being serious" about it. Given the time investment they've put into the server, That's pretty ridiculous. Would like to see you back that "logic" up.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apparently yours fit the bill.

1) I can't PBAoE scarabs in EC - therefore, the devs aren't doing it right

That's some sound logic there.

I'm curious to see why you tied PBAoE spells to run speed. Do you mean targeted AoE's? Because they work fine when I quad specs. I've been killing junk with AoEs for more than 20 levels, and it works just fine.

2) The devs choose not to re-code run speed from the ground up (if that is even possible or wouldn't take 500+ man hours) - therefore, they're not serious about the server

because scarabs ran slow an un-sowed wizard could do 8-16 in EC very fast by rounding up scarabs and using spells like numbing cold

Nothing is impossible code wise, it might just be that its easier to get 5 gold stars by CTRL F and replacing a text file 20x to remove the spell functionality vs learning 2 code functions or ... who knows maybe mob speed was left out because adding in dynamic ranges would slow the server down to a crawl... I havn't seen any posts about it other then "its really hard, and part of the greater bigger emu project they can fix it, were gonna do other stuff instead" which is a somewhat more valid reason then its just "too hard"

Is it game breaking? no, is it anything i'm upset enough about to not play a wizard no? same thing with spell gems...

But it is a FAR MORE relevant fix then nerfing the UI needlessly (which I am going to stand by)

Also if the emu code is anything like any freshmeat or sourceforge project or google code project or open CVS repository... it would simply take re-submitting code back to the original EMU code base and upgrading the servers from .8 to .801b or whatever they use...

I have no idea but it seems like a good place to start and they would help the entire emu community as a whole

again my logic is sound in that it is A. more relevant to a classic experience, it doesn't just affect wizards etc it also effects high end quad kiting for all classes and bard swarms etc.

Anyway name calling asside thanks for giving me a reason to type up a slightly more consise and assertive post to defend my position.

I had a cup of coffee, perhaps you should get one as well.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had a cup of coffee, perhaps you should get one as well.

I prefer tea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (not to sound too much like a wood elf hipster) but thanks, your response was at least relevant and you took a legitimate stand. However, I disagree here:

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it is a FAR MORE relevant fix then nerfing the UI needlessly (which I am going to stand by)

again my logic is sound in that it is A. more relevant to a classic experience, it doesn't just affect wizards etc it also effects high end quad kiting for all classes and bard swarms etc.

Unless I was p99 staff, I wouldn't feel qualified to tell them what was more relevant - i'd probably comment if i had combed the bug and and resolved issues forums to see if I could find any relevant facts then post in the bug forum. Also, it's intellectually dishonest to assume the ui nerf was intentional and done in some draconian "ITS NOT CLASSIC GRAWRRWRR" fashion.

See this:

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I had to guess.. the spell menus weren't removed on purpose. Probably a byproduct of the massive spells change done. Haven't seen that assumption posed yet.

And getting back to bubbles' original post - it is nice to have the updated UI's (I use Duxa's and love it - even tho the nostalgia of the original ui is nice, it doesn't compare in functionality).

However, what i've read elsewhere tells me it's still there under the surface:

Originally Posted by Arkyani [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for your spell sets. They are all still there, or at least mine were. All you need to do is "/memspellset, /savespellset, or /loadspellset" followed by the name of the spell set you wish to load, create, or memorize as. Without spell sets the switching between all your buffs can get very tedious.

And Nilbog commented on that post and didn't repudiate the claim...

So in reality, I don't know if it's actually been nerfed. The dust doesn't appear to have settled, as is the case after massive changes take place.

All in all, my point in posting such a sharp reply was to get a real response out of you or see if you'd rageflame me. Glad I did get a real one.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

screw it i love not being able to PBAoE scarbs in EC according to the devs (super sarcasim because if they were serious about serious business they'd recode mob run speed from the ground up)... but not being able to right click spell mem is even better and a great substitute for changing core game mechanics that really need to be fixed.

Yo brodog, you got that new code for us? Does it have anything to do with spells? That's right, this isn't a thread about runspeed dawg.