Rotation RNF Thread

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only if you promise to not come back...

Deal. Slots for everyone.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by icedwards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

> Loses half of mages to RMT
> Parks 34 mages in ToV

Wut?

Hyperbole, yes. Obviously there wasnt 34 mages parked in ToV at a time, variance and all.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

QFE. There are of course people of differing ambitions in every guild. There are a lot of good folks in Awakened and Aftermath and, there are of course a few turds in each. The fundamental difference though is leadership.

AM leadership has demonstrated that they are not interested in subsidizing unhealthy play styles that unnecessarily devours their people's time when it can be avoided by simple cooperation.

Rampage leadership has done the same and I applaud them for pressing the issue as they have done with VP.

CSG has always supported cooperation as well, they just are largely incapable of 'competing' because they lack a core group of individuals willing and able to devote the resources to secure FTEs.

Awakened really seems to be the only guild to consistently refuse any form of cooperation, whether it's rotations or ordinary raid disputes.

I was the one who made the Ring War rotation! Give me some credit!

Rampage leadership were the ones who decided to wake the sleeper and aggro Vulak to snipe a FAT Feshlak after FAT cleared the trash and guards to the dragon.

AM leadership refused to move from the entrance of ToV and continually AEs everyone every kill at the entrance. Also the ones who had the brilliant idea of locking down multiple FTEs in Kael and leaving then telling CSG they were their mobs on that fateful repop. Something so dumb a rule was created the following week to prevent it.

Every guild has their shitty self centered behaviors, let's be honest. Just because they are now in a situation where they feel a rotation is the best course of action doesn't negate the nonsense they've pulled for the past 3-4 years constantly racing to and poopsocking everything.

CSG is consistent, can't really knock them. But saying AM and Rampage/Rustle are guilds who always played right is lolworthy.

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its possible that some things was exaggerated. But off the top of my head I remember several million platinum, strings, and stoppers

As I said, this platinum amount is exaggerated by at least one 0. The guild owns two Strings. One is on the recharger. We have less than 10 guild Bladestoppers. Most (unsure percentage, may even be 50%.. I don't know) were from Taken. The single most abundant item was Prayers. I only have a list of who holds guild ones, so I don't know which came from where, but we have 17 Guild Prayers.

Again, I am happy for what was given to Awakened in the merge, but isn't that the point of a merge? Most items/platinum was raffled off or given out before Rampage disbanded. These are exact numbers.

Oh, and I am not trying to diminish anything, but yes, as Detoxx pointed out, we have 1 guild bot that I can think of that came from Rampage. The majority were banned due to an ex-Rampage logging them in who had RMT'd. The remaining were taken back by Rustle.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the one who made the Ring War rotation! Give me some credit!

Rampage leadership were the ones who decided to wake the sleeper and aggro Vulak to snipe a FAT Feshlak after FAT cleared the trash and guards to the dragon.

AM leadership refused to move from the entrance of ToV and continually AEs everyone every kill at the entrance. Also the ones who had the brilliant idea of locking down multiple FTEs in Kael and leaving then telling CSG they were their mobs on that fateful repop. Something so dumb a rule was created the following week to prevent it.

Every guild has their shitty self centered behaviors, let's be honest. Just because they are now in a situation where they feel a rotation is the best course of action doesn't negate the nonsense they've pulled for the past 3-4 years constantly racing to and poopsocking everything.

CSG is consistent, can't really knock them. But saying AM and Rampage/Rustle are guilds who always played right is lolworthy.

Go talk to the leadership of every guild on this server and ask them who is continually the worst to deal with in every aspect.

Their answer will universally be Awakened. That clown car of leadership is the biggest joke on this server.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was the one who made the Ring War rotation! Give me some credit!

Rampage leadership were the ones who decided to wake the sleeper and aggro Vulak to snipe a FAT Feshlak after FAT cleared the trash and guards to the dragon.

AM leadership refused to move from the entrance of ToV and continually AEs everyone every kill at the entrance. Also the ones who had the brilliant idea of locking down multiple FTEs in Kael and leaving then telling CSG they were their mobs on that fateful repop. Something so dumb a rule was created the following week to prevent it.

Every guild has their shitty self centered behaviors, let's be honest. Just because they are now in a situation where they feel a rotation is the best course of action doesn't negate the nonsense they've pulled for the past 3-4 years constantly racing to and poopsocking everything.

CSG is consistent, can't really knock them. But saying AM and Rampage/Rustle are guilds who always played right is lolworthy.

Every guild has their moment or two of bad calls and moves, but taken has consistently been giant cunts

[icedwards]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hyperbole, yes. Obviously there wasnt 34 mages parked in ToV at a time, variance and all.

Fair. I just think it's unreasonable to point fingers at Awakened over the coth mage escalation when it was obviously a response to FA gating their mage to doubles, triples etc while each guild had their "allotted 2" watching Vulak (concessions included). It's especially laughable now that it's been replaced with foot races.

I'm new to the server, less than two years in. I still know all the horror stories behind TMO/IB lock down of content, the C/R/FFA breakdown and whatever other silly drama that's plagued this 20 year old elf sim emu. It's not exactly surprising that there's bad blood keeping the top guilds from cooperating.

All this over Hosh staffs too...

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone guild has their moment or two of bad calls and moves, but taken has consistently been giant cunts

Moreso than TMO and it's current iterations? You're high bruh. You suffered through that shit in BDA then had to deal with Detoxx while in Rampage. Don't be a prisoner of the moment dummy.

[khanable]

I've consistently been against Takens bullshit, not sure what you're talking about. The only "suffering" I did in BDA was dealing with Takens horseshit and watching their leaders argue each other in the R forums.

The BDA I was in wasn't impacted much by TMO since we simply didn't compete against them. I'm sure there was a time before that where it may have been insufferable, but TMO wasn't even on the radar when I was around.

And yes: I dealt with detoxx's walls of text plenty of times. And I think it's really telling that he's being the reasonable one in all of this.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their answer will universally be Awakened. That clown car of leadership is the biggest joke on this server.

You do realize that clown cars are pretty freaking amazing and full of surprises right?

I mean watch this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESa4tVAf_gY

How do they fit so many people in there? Also it's 'jokes' that are what keep us alive as people! I for one am proud to be considered as special as a clown car and akin to to something as wonderful as making people smile!

edit: Cucumbers is right in that he consistently hated Taken Os in the Class R Rotation forums. I think we were the reason he bowed out of that sub forum. To be fair though, there was a whole lot of crazy in those threads so its hard to point fingers solely in one direction but it was unfair we had so many officers who would post there muddling things.