So no chardok & no bard kiting... discuss

[Khaleesi]

More and more successful normal Chardok xp groups rolling off the assembly line.... it's lovely.

Meanwhile I hear whispers that people have gone to Karnors to do some variation of AE pulling instead. Awesome, the worst xp method in the worst xp zone, amazing solution for everyone - even more reason to stay out of Karnors.

[Maciver]

I don't get the hardware, connection argument. My friends and I were in college, on T1 lines. We were also, like most, enthusiasts with the best hardware available. It was quite possible and being done on our server. This is 4ish months after velious released.

If they think it's a detriment to server and want to nerf it, thats one thing. Go for it. To say it wasn't possible at all is false.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Sometimes when I play Everquest I get the funny feeling as if someone else at the same time could be playing. I often stare at the moon and wonder if someone else is staring at the moon.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look up any screens of the bixie event in EC tunnel if you don't think aoeing 100 mobs at a time was a thing the game supported in 2001 genius. Literal GM event that involved the very thing I need screens for you to believe. Can you prove with a screenshot you ever actually played this game before p99 or live PoP?

So basically you have no proof? k.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't have ft15 or kei, this isn't PoP, having to cast quake once vs 8 times is a huge difference and not classic. It's not a huge deal but it's a deal and it's not classic - can you prove me wrong?



Bring a group with my level 60 to blackburrow?

It's not my job to prove anything. I'm happy with the AoE nerf. You are the one with something to prove. Prove that 200 mob pulls are classic.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay fair enough you little shit. I'll break it down for you since you need to be educated.

First off, it isn't only about future changes. It is also about the staff hand picking changes they want to incorporate because whiny brats like you don't like the way things are.

I don't like the idea of the server changing in any manner simply to appease the majority. It ruins the integrity of the project. If I wanted a server like that I would just go play on Daybreak servers.

Also, if you're just going to dismiss the slippery slope argument, then what's the fucking point of ever logically discussing anything ever?

FYI this isn't the first time that the staff has implemented changes in the game away from classic mechanics in attempts to make the server better.

So basically what you are saying is you want him to NOT make changes... because of whiny brats like you?

How is that any different exactly?

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by Maciver [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get the hardware, connection argument. My friends and I were in college, on T1 lines. We were also, like most, enthusiasts with the best hardware available. It was quite possible and being done on our server. This is 4ish months after velious released.

If they think it's a detriment to server and want to nerf it, thats one thing. Go for it. To say it wasn't possible at all is false.

The majority of the gaming world was not on T1 lines and top of the line hardware in 2001. Hell I myself was in college in 2003 and the net in my dorm was horrible. I don't know what you were smoking in college.. and I hope you were not a statistics major...

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can u prove humans were a playable race in classic?

i await ur reply eagerly

25th Nov 2000 17:51 #4
ua
Guest
Yes, Ogres are about the best warriors, and like you said are hated by most. But Trolls are despised to an even greater extent. The Slam ability is a huge asset, thier big size however, is a dungeon nightmare, so you get to buy plenty of shrink potions, or make real nice with shammies.

Trolls have higher AGI dex, + regen (and the manual is wrong when it says they have ultra vision, they don't) While it is true that the regen is negligible later on, it will make the first 10 or so levels a bit easier. If you want to make a good warrior thats liked a bit better, Barbs are a good choice, they still get slam (im not sure about the slam defense) and are fairly strong. In a list if best to worst, IMHO it would go:

Ogre
Troll
Barbarian
Dwarf
Half Elf
Wood Elf
Half Elf
Iksar
Human
Dark Elf
Halfling
Gnome (the wussies of the fighter world, without good gear they can barely carry thier armor.)

If you decide on an ogre, get ready to hear "move yer fat butt" a lot. And roleplay.. Ogres=Roleplayers



http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5756
Google OP.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by Jhaerik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

25th Nov 2000 17:51 #4
ua
Guest
Yes, Ogres are about the best warriors, and like you said are hated by most. But Trolls are despised to an even greater extent. The Slam ability is a huge asset, thier big size however, is a dungeon nightmare, so you get to buy plenty of shrink potions, or make real nice with shammies.

Trolls have higher AGI dex, + regen (and the manual is wrong when it says they have ultra vision, they don't) While it is true that the regen is negligible later on, it will make the first 10 or so levels a bit easier. If you want to make a good warrior thats liked a bit better, Barbs are a good choice, they still get slam (im not sure about the slam defense) and are fairly strong. In a list if best to worst, IMHO it would go:

Ogre
Troll
Barbarian
Dwarf
Half Elf
Wood Elf
Half Elf
Iksar
Human
Dark Elf
Halfling
Gnome (the wussies of the fighter world, without good gear they can barely carry thier armor.)

If you decide on an ogre, get ready to hear "move yer fat butt" a lot. And roleplay.. Ogres=Roleplayers



http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5756
Google OP.

Your turn. Back something up.

[Malk]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

please provide domain registration details or an archive link or something else demonstrating that these posts are from the time period you stated and not a fabrication with phony timestamps

Heh you had me going to my old eq screenshot archive, and while it's not a definive proof...

[Ha i was there during the green mist on live](http://i.imgur.com/Us28RoQ.png)

[Remember him ?](http://imgur.com/a/l9Cq1), the second one shows that i was on a RTC connexion at this time (and with Velious UI). I'm wondering if devs made it to the point of replicating classic bugs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And from the very same screenshot archive [we have a playable human](http://i.imgur.com/2e39Rs5.png), yeepee ! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]