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Old 07-27-2016, 10:41 PM
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Maybe it's Necro who is the easiest.
Great solo ability, always welcome in groups, twitching during raids isn't too tough.
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Old 07-27-2016, 10:42 PM
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overall evaluation would be EXP an Raid duty.

rog out does mag in exp roles and greatly in Raid duty, CRing/sneak hide scouts/FTE racing while mags do none of that and drop mod rods.

Rog is actually harder to play then a bunch of other classes in my opinion. Those who think all rogs do is stab are not playing the character to its fullest potential.
Rogues definitely have a little more complexity to them on P99. Things differ a little on Phinny and that's where the discussion originated and I was primarily talking about raiding but overall view is cool too. On phinny though rogues don't have automatic godmode stealth like they do on P99 it doesn't come til they get shroud of stealth or whatever its called AA. CRing is mostly handled by FD classes and FTE racing isn't a thing. Rogues are pretty much strictly stand behind mob hit backstab here from what I can tell.
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Old 07-27-2016, 10:44 PM
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Awareness of and control of push, mainly. A rogue is every bit as responsible as a warrior for where the mob you're fighting ends up. A good rogue breaks gates and CHes. A bad rogue causes them.

Pulling agro off casters w/o breaking mezzes. NOT breaking mezzes. Being able to pull. Efficiently finding and returning corpses to camp. There's more to it than auto backstab evade.
Totally random thought, but do deathly strikes provide any value? I have the vaguest recollection of them beefing it up on live where it could generate half the power of a backstab or something. Not sure if AAs were involvedout if you needed a throwing boulder or something.
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:07 PM
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None whatsoever unless you're deadly striking someone w/ a boulder running from you in PvP. Poisons are like that too. Near useless in PvE, but invaluable for PvP.

One thing you can do is assassinate w/ throwing from behind on valid assassinate targets.
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:18 PM
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Soloing?
Grouping?
Raiding?

gtfo with vague question poll
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:19 PM
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Bard hardest

Everything else is easy money
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:20 PM
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Bard hardest

Everything else is easy money
cause clicking 3 buttons in grouping is HARD
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:20 PM
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not to count soloing, hey let me run in circles till everything dies
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:30 PM
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cause clicking 3 buttons in grouping is HARD
The difference between a durrhurr click 3 buttons bard and a good bard is the biggest gap in all classes, Enchanter being a distant second.

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Old 07-28-2016, 07:43 AM
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wth kind of hide do rogues get on phinny then?

It should be better than invis by default. SoS made it ridiculous where they could party in places like NTov without ever being seen.
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