Coup in Turkey

[big_ole_jpn]

ok guys i dont know much about this situation need some redpills

which side is the good side?? the secular coup forces? or are they trying to overrun islam to extend zog government?

[Nihilist_santa]

ZOG is using Erdogan to help empower ISIS and build this "caliphate". This Caliphate will be used as one side in the conflict used to finally demonize religion and nationalism as Albert Pike wrote in his letters to Mazzinni describing the third global conflict used as a justification for a lasting global ZOG.

ETA:

“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

People have called this a hoax or that it has been debunked but world events seem to be coinciding with this "hoax".

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok guys i dont know much about this situation need some redpills

which side is the good side?? the secular coup forces? or are they trying to overrun islam to extend zog government?

Its over lol. They are reporting full control of the capital. Not worthy of being recognized as a coup in the first place.

Al-Jazeera had a Turkish Professor from Georgetown University in Qatar said the coup itself was a false flag to move things towards Erdogan's agenda.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok guys i dont know much about this situation need some redpills

which side is the good side?? the secular coup forces? or are they trying to overrun islam to extend zog government?

The coup are the good guys... well... they are not the existing bad gov.

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its over lol. They are reporting full control of the capital. Not worthy of being recognized as a coup in the first place.

Al-Jazeera had a Turkish Professor from Georgetown University in Qatar said the coup itself was a false flag to move things towards Erdogan's agenda.

I'm not calling it yet. There is still fighting going on this moment. There is no telling what's propaganda and what is truth as far as what's coming out of spokesholes.

[JurisDictum]

Basically the neo cons think its a good idea to support secular dictatorship rather than democratically elected right-wing muslims. The thing is, muslims are always going to be the first ones to power in this region because the mosque is the only location where you can organize without the secular dictatorship coming in and shutting you down. This gives them an organizational advantage over more secular tolerant groups.

But a dictatorship is a dictatorship. Now that Americans are waking up to the fact that we overthrow democratic governments and replace them with dictatorships we agree with, it is getting less popular for us to do so.

But the far right of this country hasn't wavered. This is about american security, not world democracy. And they argue we are more secure supporting the secular dictators than islam-friendly democracy.

I'm not sure if I agree however. Given that our long history of supporting both Israel and dictatorships is the reason we have Islamic terrorism in this country.

[Pokesan]

dude just hijacked CNN stream(because soldiers kicked CNN out earlier and didn't turn shit off)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ

e: he's gone. too late sad christmas. but it was amazing.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need more coups. Let those assholes murder each other instead of us. Just institute a decent quarantine and be sure to continue supplying arms to which we side appears to be losing. New Middle East policy right here.

Turkey is a different cupcake, not really a middle-east entity, but Mediterranean and a junction point of different regions. It is/was the seat of the Byzantine empire, is very Westernized, and generally/historically enjoys a functioning secular-style peace between muslim, christian and jew.

[JurisDictum]

I think it is more important to defend democracy rather than to defend secularism at all costs. I say that as an atheist. But its a hard call because of some of the BS the Muslim president of Turkey has pulled.

Egypt taught me you can't let secular dictators sweet talk you like their not "a real dictatorship"

[JurisDictum]

I hear shots on the stream -- were about to find out how many people the military is willing to kill for power

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically the neo cons think its a good idea to support secular dictatorship rather than democratically elected right-wing muslims.

wtf? The "neo cons"?? They are globalists, you have no idea what you're talking about. Bush was a neo-con, and a globalist, as an example. They don't have a problem with the muslim hoards invading Turkey, w/o the desire for Turkey to remain as it has been. This is about the NWO, the muslim invasion, just like in part it was for Brexit. This is the gov that nearly turned the Syrian war into a shooting war between NATO and Russia. You're so hawkish, dude, yet while pointing the finger at others.