Dallas erupts in gunfire at BLM protest

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I live near Oradour-Sur-Glane. Every year we still find bombs that didn't explode, and have to call deminers. Actually had to call them because we had some construction at my work, and the area had been bombed in WW2 since it's close to a trainstation.. just in case. At the current rate, we think we're gonna be done with them all in 800 years. There's even a 450 squared miles zone where it's forbidden to build or even live because it's been shelled so much.

this is like the worst advertisement for france ever, you almost make being surrounded by french people seem like a secondary concern

USA USA USA

[Archalen]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I googled a bit more:



Even if this is true, it doesn't seem like a very strong finding. 10% of calories in an adult male would be 60g of casein or over 2 quarts of cow's milk. I don't think very many people drink that much. Apparently there are some people who believe casein free diets can improve autism, and some people are allergic to it. There is also a strain of probiotics, lactobacillus casei, that help humans break down casein.

Maybe I am not seeing the whole picture yet, but so far it seems to me to be a long way from this study to 'you shouldn't drink milk' let alone 'you shouldn't eat meat'.

It's quite a research project. I remember reading the literature and then going through a list of criticisms (https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/commen...e_china_study/) to make sure there weren't any obvious statistical flaws. The more amateur critics I could refute myself, the more nuanced ones happened to be answered by Colin Campbell (like Denise Minger), and I'm glad he did because I wouldn't have known any better. Also Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn has done group studies on the subject (http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/study03/), and in my opinion, pretty damning evidence. I was proud that a heart surgeon my girlfriend's mom went to see actually referenced Esselstyn's work, as I didn't think it was too widely known.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh we did pay the iron price. More than you ever will. If you ever come to france, you'll basically walk on blood. You can go to any small village in france, and you'll see a monument to the dead that came from that village. I live near Oradour-Sur-Glane. Every year we still find bombs that didn't explode, and have to call deminers. Actually had to call them because we had some construction at my work, and the area had been bombed in WW2 since it's close to a trainstation.. just in case. At the current rate, we think we're gonna be done with them all in 800 years. There's even a 450 squared miles zone where it's forbidden to build or even live because it's been shelled so much. Ever heard of the "gueules cassées" ? well french have pretty much pioneered reconstructive chirurgy.. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK0dQdfF9K4 (beware: can be shocking).

We're not trigger happy cowboys with war like you guys are. We actually know the price.

And what of that shirt and your necklace you are wearing right now? Did you pay the iron price for those as well?

Or did a diplomat negotiate them for you like a whore.

[Daywolf]

So as you guys know, over the weekend, more cops murdered and injured http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...hers-are-here/ I hardly call these "protests", this is dissension of a racist movement as it plunges the country into lawlessness. A protest is this and one that succeeded with help of all. No way in hell I'd stand with Soros' BLM, they are nothing but a race group intent on destroying this nation.

If this were the KKK which has remained "peaceful" for decades (btw which was created by the Dems to murder blacks and conservative whites) or if it were the Tea Party (which Dems claimed is a racist group and is dangerous and will start killing people etc. - which was never the truth and never happened) well you guys would be calling us out directly responsible without end.

And even in the case of the Don, it never ends the calling him a racist, same damn thing. Even when he denounces the kkk (which isn't the violent BLM - though they still sux) a dozen times, they keep at it until he gets annoyed with the leftist reporters and then they squeak "see?!? racist!!".

Well you libs here need to start jumping though hoops denouncing the BLM and the racist message they are infesting the country with. It's an evil message, based on lies (hands up don't shoot never happened - flat out lie and what the BLM was founded on), and causing people who listen to it to go out and murder Americans. BLM is a cancer, and 0bamas race bating comments over the weekend to fuel the hate as he parties with his globalist friends out of the country, well imo he shouldn't even be welcomed back into this country. Disgraceful!

[LostCause]

media in 2016 lolol

[Ahldagor]

Daywolf, still waiting on the discernment of my assertation that you're a feckless coward.

[Jarnauga]

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[Raev]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's quite a research project. I remember reading the literature and then going through a list of criticisms (https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/commen...e_china_study/) to make sure there weren't any obvious statistical flaws. The more amateur critics I could refute myself, the more nuanced ones happened to be answered by Colin Campbell (like Denise Minger), and I'm glad he did because I wouldn't have known any better. Also Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn has done group studies on the subject (http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/study03/), and in my opinion, pretty damning evidence. I was proud that a heart surgeon my girlfriend's mom went to see actually referenced Esselstyn's work, as I didn't think it was too widely known.

I skimmed some of this and it seems like a gigantic mess. Campbell claims that Minger isn't including enough potential confounding factors. Minger claims that Campbell doesn't bother with confounding factors when the data proves his point, and that he has never tied consumption of animal products to actual disease (only to things that are correlated with disease, like cholesterol). Esselstyn's article that you linked seems to mostly assume its conclusion to me.

Personally I have mostly abandoned the inductive approach to health. Things are simply so, so complicated. For example, there was a big study done that heart disease was much lower in the Mediterranean countries, and the authors suggested eating fish and olive oil. Well, it turns out that most of those people were Greek Orthodox, which contains an aggressive intermittent fasting program. Or China, for example, is a massive hotbed of industrial pollution. It wouldn't surprise me if the people in the cities were richer, eating more meat, and also exposed to more industrial chemicals. Or you have some cultures that are simply more stressful (Japan/USA) than others (South America/Western Europe). Or you may have (god forbid) nonlinear effects that aren't easily modeled no matter how many cofounders you add. And then of course we have to concern ourselves with the composition of the gut microbiome, which is tremendously important. So again, I just find the whole thing to be a gigantic mess.

Since I am not confident in inductive approaches, I proceed deductively. I'm most confident in Paleolithic foods like potatoes, grass fed meats, wild caught fish, organ meats, bone broth, vegetables, free range eggs, and small quantities of nuts. I'm moderately confident in traditionally prepared Neolithic foods like fermented raw milk products, soy sauce, sauerkraut, sprouted heirloom wheat, and white rice. And I'm least confident in Industrial foods that are heavily refined (sugar, corn syrup, vegetable oils), hybridized (fruit, wheat), or put animals in unhealthy environments (confinement beef, farm raised salmon, supermarket eggs, confinement dairy).

Anyway, I realize this is a bit of a dodge, but in the end I just feel that this kind of thing is too difficult to measure empirically to have really solid conclusions.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Daywolf, still waiting on the discernment of my assertation that you're a feckless coward.

I don't even know wtf you are talking about troll. All your posts are full of holes, much like your brain. All ya do is talk out your ass, it's normal for you. So yawn..

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't even know wtf you are talking about troll. All your posts are full of holes, much like your brain. All ya do is talk out your ass, it's normal for you. So yawn..

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop evading. I set you up to show off your discernment skills, so let's see them.

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Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.